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The price is not low enough on the 1060 laptops IMHO, the only reason to get one is for the thinner body IMHO.

The 1070 seems like the way better deal and they arent a lot bigger (the laptops for them)

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I mean if they offer the 1070 in a 14" format for a good price months from now i'm all for it but i definitely will be sticking to smaller form factors I.E. 14 and below. Just figured the 1070 would only make it into the 15"+ laptops. At least that seems the trend for the 970M excluding one or two 14" laptops.
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All of this has me wondering what this means for the desktop market?  Everybody knows desktops are on the decline lately, but given the fact that apparently mobile graphics performance is now more or less equal to desktop graphics performance, what incentive is there even for enthusiasts such as us to buy/build a large desktop pc?  Graphics & gaming was really the last thing tying us to the desktop, now even I'm wondering if it's worth building another system vs just buying a nice compact ultrabook with a 1070 and HDMI'ing it to a big screen for gaming.  Is the desktop pc finally doomed to go the way of the dinosaur?


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All of this has me wondering what this means for the desktop market?  Everybody knows desktops are on the decline lately, but given the fact that apparently mobile graphics performance is now more or less equal to desktop graphics performance, what incentive is there even for enthusiasts such as us to buy/build a large desktop pc?  Graphics & gaming was really the last thing tying us to the desktop, now even I'm wondering if it's worth building another system vs just buying a nice compact ultrabook with a 1070 and HDMI'ing it to a big screen for gaming.  Is the desktop pc finally doomed to go the way of the dinosaur?

1) Price will be a big problem
2) While you get the performance you will be limited by CPU, Heat and Noise.
3) If you even gamed on a "gaming laptop" you would now its not really a replacement for a desktop. You hands get hot and sweaty, keyboard is never as good.
4) Storage options is a huge plus for PC
5) Upgradability and Overclocking
6) Personalization

The list is endless. Performance was not what stopped people from buying this laptops before. A ultrabook will not have 1060 or 1070.
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1) Price will be a big problem
2) While you get the performance you will be limited by CPU, Heat and Noise.
3) If you even gamed on a "gaming laptop" you would now its not really a replacement for a desktop. You hands get hot and sweaty, keyboard is never as good.
4) Storage options is a huge plus for PC
5) Upgradability and Overclocking
6) Personalization

The list is endless. Performance was not what stopped people from buying this laptops before. A ultrabook will not have 1060 or 1070.

 

Yes it will.  I have an ultrabook with a 960 at home right now that would fit a 1060 or 1070 at the same or less power drain.

 

Price has little or nothing to do with it.  A high end gaming laptop costs the same as a high end gaming desktop.

 

And using a gaming laptop does not necessarily mean you have to game with the laptop keyboard & trackpad.  Just like I would plug a gaming laptop into a larger display for actual gaming, I would also plug in a standard gaming keyboard & mouse (or xbox controller).  And everything else you mention sounds like grasping at straws to me.  It's fine to say you won't switch to laptop over desktop simply because you like the desktop and you're used to it, but you can't argue that "personalization" is a legitimate reason that will keep most people on desktop. It isn't.

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Yes it will.  I have an ultrabook with a 960 at home right now that would fit a 1060 or 1070 at the same or less power drain.

Price has little or nothing to do with it.  A high end gaming laptop costs the same as a high end gaming desktop.

And using a gaming laptop does not necessarily mean you have to game with the laptop keyboard & trackpad.  Just like I would plug a gaming laptop into a larger display for actual gaming, I would also plug in a standard gaming keyboard & mouse (or xbox controller).  And everything else you mention sounds like grasping at straws to me.  It's fine to say you won't switch to laptop over desktop simply because you like the desktop and you're used to it, but you can't argue that "personalization" is a legitimate reason that will keep most people on desktop. It isn't.

Which Ultrabook has 960?
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Dell XPS 15

 

http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-15-9550-laptop/pd?ST=dell%20xps%2015&dgc=ST&cid=297819&lid=5695354&acd=123098073120560&ven1=sEkin0DOM&ven2=e&ven3=476902261772614637

 

And there's at least 1 MSI model w/ 1060 announced already that I would call an "ultrabook" (MSI GS63VR)


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Yes it will.  I have an ultrabook with a 960 at home right now that would fit a 1060 or 1070 at the same or less power drain.

Price has little or nothing to do with it.  A high end gaming laptop costs the same as a high end gaming desktop.

And using a gaming laptop does not necessarily mean you have to game with the laptop keyboard & trackpad.  Just like I would plug a gaming laptop into a larger display for actual gaming, I would also plug in a standard gaming keyboard & mouse (or xbox controller).  And everything else you mention sounds like grasping at straws to me.  It's fine to say you won't switch to laptop over desktop simply because you like the desktop and you're used to it, but you can't argue that "personalization" is a legitimate reason that will keep most people on desktop. It isn't.

Noise, I haven't found any laptop that's as quiet as my rig when gaming. (Yes there's headphones, but I don't like them nor do I blast my ears out while playing) My HDD's are the noisiest part in my system. A good gaming desktop with good components doesn't throttle like most gaming laptops do. Also, no single GPU laptop can touch a Titan XP right now. I've never liked dual GPU's for gaming.

And no, gaming laptops are still much more expensive for the performance you pay for. A GTX1080 laptop is still much more expensive than a self-built gaming desktop for equivalent performance.
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Dell XPS 15

http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-15-9550-laptop/pd?ST=dell%20xps%2015&dgc=ST&cid=297819&lid=5695354&acd=123098073120560&ven1=sEkin0DOM&ven2=e&ven3=476902261772614637

And there's at least 1 MSI model w/ 1060 announced already that I would call an "ultrabook" (MSI GS63VR)

You would call and being a ultrabook are 2 different things.
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