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Originally Posted by Fragil1ty View Post

Why would you return the mouse if the mouse has not got a legitimate problem/issue? I wouldn't return a mouse because the left mouse button has 'tougher' clicks than the right, this quite common place w/ mice these days.

I know it was that way on my FK1 and my FM.

So you're saying we as consumers should spend $100 on a product and live with it's flaws because it has become common place? lmao...

Maybe these mouse companies should get their quality control in order.
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People need to realize that there is major variances with Chinese made switches of all kinds. The ones typically used for main buttons in mice can have a variance between 0.44-0.74N. That is a noticeable difference in operating force.

Finding a mass produced mouse that has main buttons with the exact same operating force is probably impossible; it's definitely not economical. You are better off sorting through a batch of switches and soldering them yourself. Constantly sending back mice because the buttons are not exactly the same will make companies charge more money for their products or they will decrease the warranty.
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still weird that right tends to be lighter than left (according to my poll, which has a small sample size though)

but the spring system amplifies the relative difference
e.g. if left switch takes 64g to actuate and right switch takes 57g to actuate, with the springs it goes to something like 44g vs 37g
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You'd think they'd understand..

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still weird that right tends to be lighter than left (according to my poll, which has a small sample size though)

but the spring system amplifies the relative difference
e.g. if left switch takes 64g to actuate and right switch takes 57g to actuate, with the springs it goes to something like 44g vs 37g

Maybe there are clicking the button with their middle finger instead of their index finger. Clicking at a different position can change the force necessary to actuate.

I wonder if it would be doable to have the 150g switch and the spring tension buttons. Maybe if it's too stiff they can put the switch further back on the PCB. The return force would probably be godly (at least to me) and the actuation force will be closer to what people like.
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Originally Posted by gunit2004 View Post

So you're saying we as consumers should spend $100 on a product and live with it's flaws because it has become common place? lmao...

Maybe these mouse companies should get their quality control in order.

But the flaws are subjective (or the one in question is anyhow).

I'm spending the exact amount of money you are for your product, so it's not as if you're paying more, but the issue at hand or the one I'm talking about is the harder MB1 compared to MB2. As I stated, I've had mice like that in the past, The Zowie FK1, the Finalmouse Ergo and TP and they were great mice otherwise.

So as I said, what may be a "flaw" for you may not be a flaw for other people, as it never affected me in any way, shape or form.
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Finding a mass produced mouse that has main buttons with the exact same operating force is probably impossible; it's definitely not economical. You are better off sorting through a batch of switches and soldering them yourself. Constantly sending back mice because the buttons are not exactly the same will make companies charge more money for their products or they will decrease the warranty.

^ Very true.
Edited by Fragil1ty - 9/11/16 at 7:01pm
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Originally Posted by Elrick View Post

Love this, returning back only on a "LEGITIMATE" issue wave2.gif .

Pray tell sunshine, who shall determine this so-called "LEGITIMATE" issue, in regards to sending back a mouse for a refund?

Sensor illumination is dead, clicks break, dies on firmware update, skips on tracking, rubber melting, stuff like that for me.

I'd reckon your average consumer can define it for themselves in a reasonable manner.
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Originally Posted by Klopfer View Post

if there's no technically ( maybe cosmetic ) defect / issue , I never send a mouse back ...
btw for me the G Pro is nearly the perfect shape for "my" Fingertip .... OK I dont like the cable , maybe I will change it ... but it's not the badest cable I had ...

debraid it and get a thin rubber cable smile.gif)))
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Originally Posted by maddada View Post

debraid it and get a thin rubber cable smile.gif)))
I will change it fully if it annoyes me too much wink.gif
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Originally Posted by qsxcv View Post

still weird that right tends to be lighter than left (according to my poll, which has a small sample size though)

but the spring system amplifies the relative difference
e.g. if left switch takes 64g to actuate and right switch takes 57g to actuate, with the springs it goes to something like 44g vs 37g

Shouldn't the spring system itself also have similar variance in it? In your example, you should have perhaps chosen 22g and 18g for the spring system, and would end up with 46g and 35g for the worst case end result.

On that note, you can disassemble stuff and get to the spring in the spring tensioning system, right? You could perhaps bend it a little to tweak things in your personal copy of the mouse. It just feels a bit awkward to do as the mouse is $70, not $20.
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