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Originally Posted by SEJB View Post

It always felt like the 302/303 clicks were faster but maybe it's just the feeling of the clicks being placebo. Every company does this currently I presume?
I' d wager you can't "feel" the difference at all. It's debatable whether the 1-5ms range is performance-relevant at all. But in any case, this is about technical perfection, and every additional millisecond is unnecessary imperfection. Not to mention the 10+ms latency on many modern "gaming" mice out there.
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Originally Posted by uaokkkkkkkk View Post

The best thing about those optical switches in those bloody mice? Changed to +16ms on lift off event. +16ms delay added if you touch the scroll wheel or side buttons. Neat! The Bloody tkl b700 kb I have is fine though.
Like chr1spe said, that's just Bloody being "funny". I wonder why any of the more mainstream brands haven't tried the optical variant at all. Then again, there's seemingly no logic behind the debounce implementations used now to begin with.

Instead of going full "alien" laser microswitches, they even went back in time and ditched the traditioned optical scroll encoder for mecha with this one. Still curious what's the actuation frequency on that. Ino, mind checking? You can just go into MouseTester, lift the mouse and hit F2 for log, then flick the wheel as fast as you can, F2 to stop. Count plot must return an AbsoluteMaximum error - interval graph shows the wheel actuation frequency (@1000Hz).
Edited by HAGGARD - 8/18/16 at 3:21pm
post #372 of 3549
Ah sweet link deepor, googling only gave me the really old spreadsheet.

Frunction 5 ms would actually be above most gaming monitors latency depending on how you want to count it, if you add input lag and respons times my monitor lands around 6-7ms so it's close.

That being said it doesn't really matter it is just an interesting thing to note considering mice worked fine without the click delay in the past.

As I said haggard most likely placebo with how good the 302/303 clicks feel compared to the g400.
post #373 of 3549
Of course it matters. Now I will never become a CS:GO professional athlete. Thanks Logitech for ruining my dreams mad.gif
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Originally Posted by frunction View Post

Does a couple ms click latency really matter? As long as it's less than your monitor or the games refresh, I don't see why it's a problem.
Has nothing to do with monitor freq/game frame rate. Total reaction time gets +'d any milliseconds that click latency introduces. Whole system latency plus your reaction time means you can react to something in 200ms? Too bad, mouse adds a couple ms and you are outside of that range. That's just an example. I would assume 1-5ms will only negligibly often make the difference between being able to react in time or not, but there's just no reason to have those extra couple of ms to begin with.
post #375 of 3549
In my eyes it's more or less a loss of a something I have always expected out of a Logitech mouse.
post #376 of 3549
Ino, do you think that someone with 18-18.5 cm hands could full palm grip this mouse? Or do you have to do a palm claw hybrid?
post #377 of 3549
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Originally Posted by Nijindia18 View Post

Ino, do you think that someone with 18-18.5 cm hands could full palm grip this mouse? Or do you have to do a palm claw hybrid?

I can if it's shaped like the G100s, but the egg shape and heavily slanted sides make my knuckles hurt, which is why I am not happy about the shape of the Pro mouse.
Edited by popups - 8/18/16 at 4:01pm
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I can if it's shaped like the G100s, but the egg shape and heavily slanted sides make my knuckles hurt, which is why I am not happy about the shape of the Pro mouse.

So you actually was able to hold the G Pro? Can you upload an image of you holding it?
post #379 of 3549
Sides aren't anymore slanted the g100s, not sure where you got that information.

@Ino. can you talk about the mechanical encoder, and what the old encoder was and their differences that you notice?

TY
post #380 of 3549
Well this is my perfect mouse.

Pre-ordered, thank you Ino for the review & Logitech for giving us what we wanted!
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