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Originally Posted by popups View Post

People will try to memorize movements (so to speak) instead of having a system/technique to rely on. So they will need a specific sensor position, sensitivity, crosshair, resolution, etc... Using technique you can switch mice, resolutions, take a long time away from gaming, etc and still perform as nothing changed.

If you use technique only you can transfer your success into other FPS games.

If you used to be a great AWPer in CS or Source but suck in GO you are not relying on technique. If the scope blur and bobble cause you to not be as good as you were in CS or Source you are relying on "muscle memory" more than anything else, thus changes to the AWP will cause a drop in your performance.

You could do a simple test to see if you are relying on technique or muscle memory. Basically, play GO without the crosshair/HUD. You might also want to switch mice within the same play session.
I once gave qsxcv some advice for GO, which also applies to every FPS game.

One of the things I said to him was, "The easiest way to get good is to learn how to shoot without a crosshair."

He replied with, "i thought you were crazy but this actually works thumb.gif literally one weird trick."


Well I was more wondering what you meant with technique as opposed to muscle memory. Also, you cannot not learn muscle memory if you spend some time on something https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myelin.
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Originally Posted by popups View Post

I don't see many pro players spending a lot of time in DM servers. When they come into the DM I am in they stay for 30-60 minutes in total. They spend more time playing gathers/pugs and scriming.

I have been in Jordan's chat while he was talking about aiming and using a mouse. I probably was in the chat for the stream you linked. As you can see in that video he doesn't know how to explain the technique, he mentions "feel" and most of his speech has to do with muscle memory. I know he has read some of my comments from the chat... In later streams he mentions things I have talked about in his previous streams; such as crosshair settings for better peripheral vision aiming, centering targets without crosshair dependency, etc.

The last few games Jordan has played people have said he has been whiffing and that he should be kicked because of it. That could be because he can't physically handle the Pro like he can handle the G100s or he doesn't fully understand the techniques to reach his potential after switching. I know he didn't switch to the Pro before their vacation, I assume that is because he is reliant on muscle memory considering the shape is very similar to the G100s.

30-60 minutes in total EVERYDAY, and that's just when YOU see them go in there. Believe me, pros spend lots of time DM'ing. It's different what you see when they stream, and how they actually prepare for tournaments.

Doesn't matter how good or bad jordan is, you can look at any player and they will tell you the same thing that jordan did in this video. He's right about not being able to explain it, because it does have something with feeling. That's why people should stop complaining about hitreg or what they are seeing on the screen, because CSGO is all about feeling, muscle memory, practice and gameplay.

I can't explain what I do to get kills, but I just know when I'm spraying at somebody, what I'm supposed to do to get my bullets as accurate as possible, and where to actually start my bullets at, to be able to get the kill as quickly as possible so I can move on to the next target, or take over map control quickly.

Bottom line is, there is nothing wrong with the hitbox as it is. Some moments/situations here and there are inconsistent sure, but it's not an issue enough to mess with you or your skills as a player. If there was anything wrong with the hitbox, players like ScreaM, roca, you name it, wouldn't have been where they are now.
Edited by Aymanb - 8/24/16 at 11:04pm
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would it be possible to swap the cable out for a G100s cable, like is it compatible? it's dirt cheap on ebay and I've done the mod before with a g302 cable on my g303.
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Originally Posted by Aymanb View Post

30-60 minutes in total EVERYDAY, and that's just when YOU see them go in there. Believe me, pros spend lots of time DM'ing. It's different what you see when they stream, and how they actually prepare for tournaments.

These days when I play GO it's just DMing for a few hours because I have been banned from the gun game servers I used to play in (they thought I was using an aim bot). When I see the pros come into the server they do a few sessions then play FPL/ESEA for hours before they go practice with their team. I don't really see most pros playing hours of DM a day. I have seen Simple, Freakazoid, etc, play hours of DM. You can check players streams and Steam hours.

Right now Na'Vi and SK are boot camping in California, I don't think they will waste much time DMing over practicing. Same applies to all the new rosters.
Edited by popups - 8/24/16 at 11:30pm
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n0thing hasn't been good compared to the competiton even with the g100s tbh
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Originally Posted by VagueRant View Post

I used a razer blade that goes in a utility knife.

???

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Originally Posted by iceskeleton View Post

n0thing hasn't been good compared to the competiton even with the g100s tbh

He has had some games where he single handedly won for his team but overall he is very average because of his inconsistency.
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Ino: why do you prefer ambi mice?
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Originally Posted by popups View Post

The last few games Jordan has played people have said he has been whiffing and that he should be kicked because of it. That could be because he can't physically handle the Pro like he can handle the G100s or he doesn't fully understand the techniques to reach his potential after switching. I know he didn't switch to the Pro before their vacation, I assume that is because he is reliant on muscle memory considering the shape is very similar to the G100s.

He was streaming yesterday and I donated and asked him to review the g pro, and he said that he wasn't using it so he can't give a review.
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Originally Posted by Alya View Post

Sarcasm over text doesn't work very well, especially when what you said is actually what some people are willing to believe. thumb.gif

All the facts in this forum aside, some people in here believe a little too much, without evidence or any form of proof. Or simply argue over opinions, which is the most pointless thing to do.
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It's impossible to pull of with a 100% success ratio though tongue.gif But just play some UT instagib and work with the dodge moves vs a friend or teammate of yours and actually don't fire at him but dodge. If you pay attention, you'll notice he'll take X amount of time to line up his shots and you can time this. Though eventually you'll make a miss step or he'll adapt.

But have you never come across players that you found tougher to kill then others? Like not per se better, but just harder to take down?

It's more about playstyle, 1 person will excel at positional play, 1 will excel at pure aiming and others will excel at dealing with clusterf... situations. The latter was my type of thing, but I was pretty bad at 1vs1 clutches, I really lack the patience.

I definitely get what you mean by that, it needs more than raw aim to be successful . A good player needs to be good in several areas and not just aim, you need to be able to outsmart your opponent with positioning, movement abusing game mechanics (headglitches and such).
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