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Have your calculated how many watts your PC will require?

That's why I went with the 2nd Pedestal to have space for an extra PSU.

Realistically the main PSU 1500W should be more than enough for my original plans, but now with Peltiers chips, these things sucks up a lot of Watt to produce half the benefit, so a 2nd PSU was definitely necessary to avoid Power draw issue when CPU + GPU SLI and everything else kicks in it'll cause too much of a power fluctuation, that will make the system unstable.

Besides I always wanted to run the water loop on its own PSU, and now I can smile.gif
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btw, do you have access to some kind of hidden account with unlimited funds? Every time I check the thread you buy something else that's 300 dollars+. By the time your done building a PC it will be in the range of 20k. My PC is in the range of 10k.

hmm... not really, I do plan to keep it under $10K, but I can see it going over by a little like $2K ~ $3K

With all the recent changes, I'd had to replan many components part list

Heck, I'm already short of 9 more 120mm fans, and aprox 10 more QDC3 plugs, in pairs that means 20 extra QDC in total.
Also short on a bunch of other minor fittings, which is what i'm calculating trying to sort out right now.

and I still haven't quite made up my mind if I should go P/P or Just P for the 4x 360 that will go in the 2 Pedestals

because On those extreme rigs review with Radiators I've seen their test of P/P vs P, and I'm not seeing much benefit going P/P, some rads actually perform poor in P/P, while other like the EK performs a little bit better.

The extra increase is about 3C average between P/P vs. just Push.... but that will require 6 fans per rad, instead of just 3 fans

If I don't go P/P and use only Push then I'm fine with the existing 30 fans I already have here, otherwise I'll need to order 9 more fans for the P/P setup.


Anyway, so yeah, i'm more or less all sorted out on the Chiller side, now I just need to order the missing parts to complete the loop to include the 2nd Pedestal changes.
Edited by AllGamer - 9/22/16 at 2:01pm
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Koolance QDC3 arrived! biggrin.gif

simply beautiful... and much smaller than what I imagined, this is good, that means I can use it in more places



exposed parts when coupled is exactly 55mm, in case anyone ever pondered how much it will stick out from the Rad, CPU / GPU blocks.

Considering a fan is 120mm, it's about half length of a 120mm fan.

--- EDIT ---

Update, actual size is 53mm long x 25mm at its widest section
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Placed order for 50*50mm TEC1-12726 Thermoelectric Cooler Peltier $19.09



Along with one of these Digital Temperature Controller 30A 12V $11.91
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Placed order for 50*50mm TEC1-12726 Thermoelectric Cooler Peltier $19.09



Along with one of these Digital Temperature Controller 30A 12V $11.91

These peltier coolers look interesting, how do you install one in your loop?

edit: ah saw the EK-Thermosphere blocks you mentioned on page 7. So with the TEC Peltier cooler, you just need to fix the water block to the correct side of the peltier block for it to cool the water in the loop (and the opposing side would heat the water in the loop?)
Edited by spinFX - 9/22/16 at 10:16pm
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These peltier coolers look interesting, how do you install one in your loop?

edit: ah saw the EK-Thermosphere blocks you mentioned on page 7. So with the TEC Peltier cooler, you just need to fix the water block to the correct side of the peltier block for it to cool the water in the loop (and the opposing side would heat the water in the loop?)

for a TEC to be effective in a Water Loop, both side needs to be hooked up to something.

using Two EK-Thermosphere, to sandwich the TEC in between.

The Hot side of the TEC will be cooled by a stand alone water loop, and the Cold side of the TEC will be used to help Chill the water of the water loop for the PC rig.

Most people try to cool the CPU / GPU / RAM directly with the TEC.... that doesn't work well.

However when used as a supplement to a custom water loop, it brings out its full potential.

There's a draw back if you run it for long uncontrolled, you can actually bring the water to Sub Ambient temp and it can make unwanted condensation, which is why I needed a Temp controller, to turn the TEC On/Off as the temp reaches a pre-set level to avoid the formation of frost / condensation.

I'm thinking maybe keeping it to aprox 15C minimum, anything less like 10C and it might start to form condensation if the temperature in the room is too warm or humid.
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I would check all your TT Riing fan Controller boxes if your going to use them. I got one fan and the controller died right out of the box. I guess what they say about Thermaltake is true. Nothing be using TT any time soon for any of my parts.
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I would check all your TT Riing fan Controller boxes if your going to use them. I got one fan and the controller died right out of the box. I guess what they say about Thermaltake is true. Nothing be using TT any time soon for any of my parts.

I hear ya.
I'll have to test all the remaining closed ones to see if there are any DOA.

if yours are still within the 30 days send them back for RMA.

I need to also test the RBG fittings that uses the same controllers.
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I hear ya.
I'll have to test all the remaining closed ones to see if there are any DOA.

if yours are still within the 30 days send them back for RMA.

I need to also test the RBG fittings that uses the same controllers.

Already started a RMA with Amazon.
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Rough sketch for the Peltier Loop in the bottom Pedestal



I use it to count the amount of fittings I'll need
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EK-UNI Pump Bracket (120mm FAN) Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 LTS Win10 x64 Win7 x64 
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Asus VG278H Asus VG278H Asus VG278H BenQ GW2750HM 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G510 PS-TPG-1500DPCTXX-T CaseLabs Mercury S8 + Pedestal + Pedestal  Logitech G600 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
StarCitizen RSI Creative Labs Core 128 Logitech Z560 Sennheiser PC 163D 
OtherOtherOtherOther
THRUSTMASTER T.Flight Hotas X Nvidia 3D Vision 2 Saitek PZ35 TrackIR 5 
Other
PS-TPG-0850DPCGUS-R 
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Upside Down S8
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i7-3970X ASUS RAMPAGE IV Formula MSI GTX 1080 FE Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer 
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OCZ Vertex 4 Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001 Samsung Pro None 
CoolingOSOSMonitor
DeepCool CAPTAIN 120 Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 LTS Win10 x64 Asus VG278H 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Asus VG278H Asus VG278H BenQ GW2750HM Logitech G510 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
OCZ ZX 1250W Antec LanBoy Air Zalman ZM-GM4 StarCitizen RSI 
AudioAudioAudioOther
X-Fi MB2 Logitech Z560 Sennheiser PC 163D THRUSTMASTER T.Flight Hotas X 
OtherOtherOther
nVidia 3D Vision 2 Saitek PZ35 TrackIR 5 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
FX-8150 ASUS Crosshair V Formula ASUS EAH6870 DC/2DI2S/1GD5 ASUS EAH6870 DC/2DI2S/1GD5 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Mushkin Silverline 8GB OCZ Vertex 3 LG GGC-H20LI Win10 x64 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
BenQ W5000 Samsung 50" smart TV S7 Logitech diNovo Edge 
PowerCaseAudioOther
Corsair 800w Thermatake DH 102 Logitech Z-5500 Thermaltake Water 2.0 Performer CLW0215 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
BX80662I76700K GIGABYTE G1 Gaming GA-Z170X MSI GTX 1080 Sea Hawk EK X MSI GTX 1080 Sea Hawk EK X 
RAMRAMHard DriveHard Drive
CMU32GX4M2C3200C16R CMU32GX4M2A2666C16 OCZ Vertex 4 Seagate ST8000NM0055 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
SAMSUNG 950 PRO M.2 SAMSUNG 950 PRO None EK-CoolStream PE 360 (Triple) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
LED 3mm TWIN ULTRA WHITE LED 5mm TWIN ULTRA WHITE EK-AF Ball Valve (10mm) G1/4 - Black Nickel EK-D5 PWM G2 Motor (12V DC PWM Pump Motor) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK-HD PETG Tube 12/16mm 1000mm (8pcs) EK-HDC Fitting 16mm G1/4 - Red EK-ACF Fitting 12/16mm - Red TUBE PrimoChill PrimoFlex Advanced LRT 15,9 / 1... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
QD3-MSG4-BK QD3-FSG4-BK EK-CoolStream PE 240 (Dual) EK-CoolStream XE 360 (Triple) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
EK-XTOP Revo D5 PWM - Plexi (incl. pump) EK-Supremacy EVO - Nickel EK-FC Terminal TRIPLE Parallel - Plexi EK-FC Terminal BLANK Parallel 
CoolingOSOSOS
EK-UNI Pump Bracket (120mm FAN) Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 LTS Win10 x64 Win7 x64 
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
Asus VG278H Asus VG278H Asus VG278H BenQ GW2750HM 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G510 PS-TPG-1500DPCTXX-T CaseLabs Mercury S8 + Pedestal + Pedestal  Logitech G600 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
StarCitizen RSI Creative Labs Core 128 Logitech Z560 Sennheiser PC 163D 
OtherOtherOtherOther
THRUSTMASTER T.Flight Hotas X Nvidia 3D Vision 2 Saitek PZ35 TrackIR 5 
Other
PS-TPG-0850DPCGUS-R 
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