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My question is oled ever going to go main stream even....you just got the high end 70in for over 3000 and up models right now in tvs...

We dont have that yet, I don't think we will be seeing oled monitors, monitors seem to be stagnant and more concerned about resolution, refresh rate, HDR, gsync, widescreen, all these things than upgrading the panel.
Edited by saintruski - 8/17/16 at 2:48am
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I think there is still a bit of work to be done concerning the burn-in problems since people tend to leave their desktops either on a screensaver or on a static image for a very long period of time.

Its a matter of changing usage habits. Just put the monitor to sleep quickly and cycle backgrounds, just like OLED phones do.
Its all well and good telling me that since my phone has an oled display but many people will do it regardless and these companies would probably have to deal with the complaints and RMA requests because they could not be bothered to read the booklet which says not to leave the monitor on static images for long periods of time.
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My question is oled ever going to go main stream even....you just got the high end 70in for over 3000 and up models right now in tvs...

We dont have that yet, I don't think we will be seeing oled monitors, monitors seem to be stagnant and more concerned about resolution, refresh rate, HDR, gsync, widescreen, all these things than upgrading the panel.

Is the HDR they're discussing as being a new feature the same HDR (High Dynamic Range) that Valve demonstrated a decade ago w/their Source engine Lost Coast demo?
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Its all well and good telling me that since my phone has an oled display but many people will do it regardless and these companies would probably have to deal with the complaints and RMA requests because they could not be bothered to read the booklet which says not to leave the monitor on static images for long periods of time.

Didn't CRT's used to have this problem decades ago? Couldn't they just deny the RMA for burn-in?
post #15 of 46
Eventually I believe so. The tech is (or at least was) expected to eventually be cheaper and easier to produce than LCD. This is what really matters to the industry, not so much the fact that OLED is significantly better in pretty much every way.
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Didn't CRT's used to have this problem decades ago? Couldn't they just deny the RMA for burn-in?

Permanent burn-in was eventually resolved for both CRT and Plasma I'm pretty sure. OLED may have already solved the issue. It can still happen, but only under extreme circumstances.
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Under extreme circumstances (years of 24/7 use) even LCDs can have strong burn-in, and visible burn-in on (real) LEDs is possible.

But right now for the available OLED mobile panels you don't have to anything extreme to cause the problem.


@OP
Practically speaking, OLED doesn't have G2G lag.
Edited by MrKoala - 8/17/16 at 11:22am
post #17 of 46
My LG oled tv has a little burnin from the tvs screensaver logo. So burnin is possible on oled.
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I've been using a 65-in 2016 LG OLED as a full time HTPC with a black windows desktop. In Windows, I set the display to turn off after 10 minutes. The TV loses input signal, switches to a slide show of stock images before automatically switching to standby mode. It has a selectable pixel shift option and runs voltage drift compensation after every 4 hours of use when the panel is turned off. A manual cycle can also be initiated. It automatically dims bright static images like a windows folder. I think this can be disabled in the service menu. Will try to disable this in the near future. In the few weeks I've been using it, haven't witnessed any image retention.
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You also need to remember that computer monitors are designed for picture clarity and accuracy, while TV's are designed for fast picture response; very few TV's out there have AH-IPS screens, and yet my 34" Ultrawide AOD monitor has an AH-IPS display.

Most TV screens use display tech that isn't as accurate as a computer monitor, and that's important. I think OLED TVs are the only exception, but I would be highly surprised if they are calibrated from the factory.
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You also need to remember that computer monitors are designed for picture clarity and accuracy, while TV's are designed for fast picture response; very few TV's out there have AH-IPS screens, and yet my 34" Ultrawide AOD monitor has an AH-IPS display.

Most TV screens use display tech that isn't as accurate as a computer monitor, and that's important. I think OLED TVs are the only exception, but I would be highly surprised if they are calibrated from the factory.

Well there are different kinds of computer monitors. Professional ones from NEC and Eizo are the most accurate screens. The fastest screens are also monitors, the gaming oriented ones (TN and IPS). Almost every TV is VA, albeit a better VA panel in every way compared to VA monitors (accuracy, speed, contrast and blacks, black crush).

Now, sticking to entertainment purposes as this applies to most of us, from what I've seen in reviews, average color/gamma/white point accuracy is better on high end TVs than gaming monitors. Not to mention many high end TVs have support for both sRGB and wider gamuts too. High end TVs also have the best contrast and blacks of any LCD display, and then some have HDR. And again these TVs have the fastest VA panels out there, albeit it's still slower than any gaming IPS/TN monitor.

But OLED can do it all, and do it all better than LCD. Burn-in should hopefully be solved over time, thank you WetMacula for describing some of the countermeasures on your OLED TV.
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