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Because AMD really provides better image quality!? While the other one just does whatever includes disable something in default to increase fps but decrease image quality?
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My guess: better image quality (AMD cards do have a better image quality) and a lower cost, and they probably have a long-standing business relationship with them as well. NVIDIA's GeForce cards are geared more toward gaming.

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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

My guess: better image quality (AMD cards do have a better image quality) and a lower cost, and they probably have a long-standing business relationship with them as well. NVIDIA's GeForce cards are geared more toward gaming.

That's incorrect. (Image quality part)

http://www.overclock.net/t/1589554/amd-vs-nvidia-image-quality/10#post_24856355
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That's incorrect. (Image quality part)

http://www.overclock.net/t/1589554/amd-vs-nvidia-image-quality/10#post_24856355

 

You're going by 1 random guy's post, and we don't know anything about his credibility, expertise, knowledge level, etc. I'm going by my experience and by the experience I have seen several others post during my time here on OCN.

 

I personally had an R9 290 and compared to my GTX 780, it had a brighter and more distinct image quality. Even during my motherboard's POST, the text was brighter and whiter. At the desktop, the contrast was better. It wasn't as washed-out looking or however you want to describe it. Colors were better. However, I had to return it because it eventually started showing strange short-length thin green lines at random intervals for just a few milliseconds at a time. I didn't get another because I wanted PhysX support and I busted my butt trying to get one of my many GeForce cards to work with it following the best guides on the internet and the best advice from experts here on OCN. So, I ended up with a GTX 780 and I am actually happier with it even though I miss the superior image quality of the R9 290.

 

So, no, it's not incorrect. It's my experience, and it matches the experience of a LOT of others here on OCN.

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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

You're going by 1 guy's post. I'm going by my experience and the experience I have seen several others post during my time here on OCN.

I personally had an R9 290 and compared to my GTX 780, it had a brighter and more distinct image quality. Even during my motherboard's POST, the text was brighter and whiter. At the desktop, the contrast was better. It wasn't as washed-out looking or however you want to describe it. Colors were better. However, I had to return it because it eventually started showing strange short-length thin green lines at random intervals for just a few milliseconds at a time. I didn't get another because I wanted PhysX support and I busted my butt trying to get one of my many GeForce cards to work with it following the best guides on the internet and the best advice from experts here on OCN. So, I ended up with a GTX 780 and I am actually happier with it even though I miss the superior image quality of the R9 290.

So, no, it's not incorrect. It's my experience, and it matches the experience of a LOT of others here on OCN.

I own both a 7970 and a 980Ti. The image quality is the same, however they use different color temperatures.

Not to mention, that guy isn't just a random guy. He's a developer for AoTS which is a AMD sponsored game.

EDIT:
Last time the two had a difference in actual IMAGE QUALITY was back in the HD 5000 series days.
Edited by dmasteR - 8/16/16 at 11:44pm
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I own both a 7970 and a 980Ti. The image quality is the same, however they use different color temperatures.

Not to mention, that guy isn't just a random guy. He's a developer.

 

Being a developer doesn't make any difference to me. I know what I saw with my experience and I know what I've seen others say during my time here. That's why I tried the R9 290 in the first place. They were right; like I said, I noticed it immediately right at the POST: the white text on the black background was brighter. At the desktop, colors were better. The contrast was better. It was as though I had upgraded to a slightly better monitor. Are you going to tell me that my experience is invalid? How about the experience of all those people during my ~8 years here? Are their experiences invalid too just because one guy who happens to be a developer says otherwise? I don't think so.

 

Let's just stop now because I'm not going to be open-minded about this at all because like I said, I know what I saw with my R9 290 and I know what I've seen others say during my time here. One guy isn't going to change anything for me, I don't care what he does for a living.

 

So, you can keep telling me that I'm wrong all you want, but I'm not going to be listening. I know what I experienced and so I know what others have been saying all these years is right.

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Being a developer doesn't make any difference to me. I know what I saw with my experience and I know what I've seen others say during my time here. That's why I tried the R9 290 in the first place. They were right; like I said, I noticed it immediately right at the POST: the white text on the black background was brighter. At the desktop, colors were better. The contrast was better. It was as though I had upgraded to a slightly better monitor. Are you going to tell me that my experience is invalid? How about the experience of all those people during my ~8 years here? Are their experiences invalid too just because one guy who happens to be a developer says otherwise? I don't think so.

Let's just stop now because I'm not going to be open-minded about this at all because like I said, I know what I saw with my R9 290 and I know what I've seen others say during my time here. One guy isn't going to change anything for me, I don't care what he does for a living.

Again, that doesn't change the fact that the image quality isn't any different. Default color saturation on AMD cards is more saturated which is what you're seeing. AMD and even back when they were still ATI also use a dynamic contrast which defaults to a more color saturation. Which is exactly why you see white text being brighter on a background, and better contrast, etc.
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Again, that doesn't change the fact that the image quality isn't any different. Default color saturation on AMD cards is more saturated which is what you're seeing. AMD and even back when they were still ATI also use a dynamic contrast which defaults to a more color saturation.

 

I didn't see a stronger saturation from the beginning. I actually had to increase that in the CCC due to what I was used to with my Digital Vibrance setting of 65. I simply saw a superior image quality overall. Period. Case closed. I'm done.

 

Anyway, what you are describing results in a superior image quality.

 

I don't want to continue this anymore. It's just irritating really. So please just stop.

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Apple has been primarily using AMD since 2011 onward. Not only is it cheaper but AMDs arc is better geared for being the jack of all trades. Unless your specifically needing cuda there is no need for a nvidia mobility card on a non-gaming oriented laptop or system. Image quality differences are always going to be on case by case basis honestly...but I myself see no difference between 295X2 and 980 Ti image wise on my Catleap or MultiSync. NV Does use a ton more compression techniques AMD does not so that could be playing a major impact on per-monitor basis some might just not be as noticeable as others unless side-by-side either. Some Nvidia GPU just do not like displaying full color range its not an old wives tale so TwoCables does have basis in fact

 

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Thank you.

Your welcome ~to put it bluntly. Nvidia for some reason likes defaulting to RGB 16-235 instead of 0-255
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