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I actually found a seller selling Dell barebones with board, case, & PSU for a lot less. They are offering an H700 512MB RAID card for $80 on top so I'll probably go that route as it is still cheaper than a board with on board RAID and case separate yet performs much better.

As for the networking component, I have a Cisco Catalyst 3750 48port I bought a couple years back, I'm getting a custom rack from work for free, and will be getting a patch panel as well. Not sure if I want to get another NIC for each server as the the board is already coming with 2 dual port NICs on board. I have the slots to add NICs down the road to where I could dedicate one to each VM once they are all setup. Might even just get one early on and be done with it.

For the NICs you bought, were they the ones recommended by the OEM or did you just get what you wanted? With a Dell motherboard, I don't foresee any problems buying whatever quad gigabit card there is thats the right price, but it also wouldn't be the first time an OEM had limited compatibility.

EDIT:
I am very curious if my resource allotment for the various VMs looks appropriate as well.
Edited by NameUnknown - 8/27/16 at 8:18pm
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I just bought intel pro nic's because I like them, the compatibility you want to check for is with the OS, and that you have the right slots for it.
My main server has one quad port, one dual port, and one on-board port. I use the on-board for management stuff, remote desktop, etc. the dual port card in a team for the host OS (I make my host do a couple of things) and the quad port card in a team for my VM's. I do a lot of data streaming so I wasn't quite pleased with just gigabit.
As for your stuff being specked out, I tend to need some descent power for my file server requirements, pushing 4Gbps over 4 different network ports takes a descent amount of CPU power. (in my environment). Your mileage may vary.
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post #13 of 21
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I checked around and the Intel NICs dell originally shipped with this unit aren't too bad, only $45 per quad gig NIC. I'll probably pic one up for the lab system and do something similar to what you did.

I should have a couple of extra cores to play with on each physical server if there is a performance issue on any of them. For the test lab I am not super concerned as its just that, a test lab. When I actually move things to a live environment in my home I will definitely be sure there is enough core count and RAM for everything.

Right now I am having to reconsider a second server though due to my 15month old son hiding my wifes phone and us being unable to find it after practically taking the house apart....a phone or a server.
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Just a heads up on your Windows 10 VM's. The 1vCPU per VM will likely suffice, though be clunky, but the 2GBs of ram is razor thin for those VMs. I have 10 instances of Win10 spun up on an ESXI server and tried to run them @2GBs/VM and I ran into swap issues. 2.5GB cleared up most of the issues, but you can't run a whole lot on each VM. I have them currently set up with 2vCPUs/3GBs which allows the user to run Word, Excel and FireFox without a problem.

The Windows 8 VMs will be pretty tight too with the 2GBs of ram. Shouldn't have swap issues but won't be able to open a whole lot on them. Win7 and the Linux distro's should be good.
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post #15 of 21
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That's a valid point. These clients though will be nothing other than GPO and AD group tests not actively used beyond that. I should though have RAM a plenty to increase those clients though.

That said, since the 8GB lots just all blew way too high in cost, do Servers mind so much about mixing 4 & 8GB DIMMs so long as the 4s are matched with 4s and 8s with 8s?
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Best bet is to check with the motherboard manufactures tested list. As long as they are the same type of DIMM in regards to registered/unregistered/L-DIMM, and they are on the manufactures tested list, it should be fine. My X9 platform has mixed 8GB and 16GB DIMMS, though both are on the Supermicro verified list, both are Samsung and both are registered.
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That's the fun part, its a Dell systemboard so knowing what is on the approved list is all but impossible. I was going to do a SuperMicro build but it came out a lot more. I'm getting the 2U chassis, redundant PSUs, motherboard (dual G34), both heatsinks, and a PERC H700 512MB raid card for $145 each. I don't really anticipate any issues with RAM as its the same spec they were sold with, DDR3 1333 ECC Registered, but with ECC you just never know. The RAM though is only 4.00 per DIMM so its not terrible either.

The original SuperMicro system I was going to do was a Quad LGA1567 board, it was $475 for the barebones. I specced out a different one and I think it was ~$175 for chassis & PSU and another $100 for a board but no RAID other than onboard.

I'd grab my spreadsheet of parts, but its on my home PC and our network guy already yelled at for bandwidth use while using teamviewer to access the PC lol.
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That's my major beef with vendors like Dell and HP. Getting data to do your own work is pretty dang hard sometimes. I get why it's that way, to encourage service contracts, but man it can be annoying. If it's that much trouble I wouldn't sweat it too much, especially if it's mainly going to be for testing AD and the like.

One thing that might be annoying is the other VMs hanging due to those Win10 VMs paging the pool while your other VMs are actively using it.
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Both units are the same. They are bare bones Dell Poweredge R715 chassis with a dual socket G34 motherboard, dual 750W PSUs, H700i RAID card with 512mb & backup battery. Both units were only $150 plus shipping. I hadn't expected to get them until next week so imagine my surprise when I saw giant boxes on my front porch when I got home tonight biggrin.gif



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Phenom II 1090T Black Edition Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD5 Diamond R9 280X Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB VLP DDR3 1600 CL9 ... 
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Vertex 3 120GB SSD  2x WD 1TB Caviar Black SATA3 WD Caviar Black 640GB SATA2 HP DVD-RW 1170i 
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Prolimatech Megahalem 2x Delta AFB1212SHE  7x Cooler Master SickleFlow R4 fans Windows 7 Professional 64bit 
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Logitech G400 Generic 
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Ultra 550W oldschool MGE case what mouse pad? 
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Actually I run vmware workstation inside my Server 2008 R2 server no problem, it runs a couple linux boxes for me. never have issues, stability is the same as ESX.
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6x4gb Patriot G Series ~3TB Corsair H70 Win7 Ultimate x64 
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