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"AMD's new Zen CPU architecture has been officially delayed until "early 2017." The first Zen chips, which will be produced on a 14nm FinFET process, had originally been expected sometime in Q3 or Q4 2016."

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/08/amd-zen-performance-details-release-date/
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"AMD's new Zen CPU architecture has been officially delayed until "early 2017." The first Zen chips, which will be produced on a 14nm FinFET process, had originally been expected sometime in Q3 or Q4 2016."

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/08/amd-zen-performance-details-release-date/

I don't remember ever getting a confirmation Zen was ever launching in 2016? Early 2017 has been the rumor pretty much since day one.
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Current APU's. I expect Polaris equipped Zen APU's to shred Intel's iGPU's. It's highly unlikely that Intel caught up with NVIDIA/AMD in graphics technology yet.

Quite true. Though I suspect it will be quite some time yet before we see anything like that from AMD, no matter how positive Polaris and Zen are.
Current APU's from AMD do their job adequately, and indeed surpass requirements in some cases (being able to just about play BF4 at 1080p for example).

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Both have the same core count and the same thread count. There's nothing that should give AMD the advantage here. Quite the opposite actually, because Zen is two separate 4 core clusters, which would add some communication delays between the two clusters, so theoretically it should do better in up to 8 threads (4 cores) relatively.

What makes you think the clusters share information or communicate with each other?

They certainly don't share cache.

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Current APU's. I expect Polaris equipped Zen APU's to shred Intel's iGPU's. It's highly unlikely that Intel caught up with NVIDIA/AMD in graphics technology yet.

The only reason current APU lose is the memory bandwidth. The GPU destroy anything Intel has.
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The only reason current APU lose is the memory bandwidth. The GPU destroy anything Intel has.
If AMD want to get higher bandwidth for iGPU they had to use eDRAM/L4 or HBM and if AMD APUs start using HBM would look similar to Knight Landing the thingis how they could plan to cool the Die with the GPU die/HBM stacks being so close all under IHS
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The only reason current APU lose is the memory bandwidth. The GPU destroy anything Intel has.

Correct. I can't wait to see what fast DDR4 does for APU's. Even my 15w tdp APU A8 6410 benefitted grealy going from 1600mhz to 1866mhz memory, and it's limited to single channel. DDR 4 4000mhz + dual channel would be great for an APU.
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Quite true. Though I suspect it will be quite some time yet before we see anything like that from AMD, no matter how positive Polaris and Zen are.
Current APU's from AMD do their job adequately, and indeed surpass requirements in some cases (being able to just about play BF4 at 1080p for example).

Off topic though, is that a Gallente logo in the background of your avatar? thumb.gif
Indeed it is, though I'm not quite an EVE player. Am a refugee of the defunct game known as DUST, hoping for refuge in Project Nova.
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Gonna' have to take this with a bit more than a grain of salt.

That much salt means that this is really credible. The amount of salt represents credibility.
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That much salt means that this is really credible. The amount of salt represents credibility.

...not sure if you're serious...headscratch.gif
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