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https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/08/16/correcting-some-mistakes/
I guess more shots were fired

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A single strong server with numerous powerful GPUs delivers superior performance than lots of weak nodes, each with one or two sockets of less-capable processors, like Xeon Phi.

Which is totally ironic as this is nVidia's CORE strategy. Kepler Cores, Maxwell Cores, Pascal Cores, all individually weak but powerful when working in parallel.

I smell fear.
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I feel like AMD GPU's will somehow magically have any CPU bottlenecks removed while Nvidia GPU's will be CPU bottlenecked pretty bad on Cannonlake processors for some reason.
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Or AMD processors game great with an Nvidia system than it does with an Intel proc
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But i thought they are same, cuz you know, they complete each other, something like that.

 

Intel and nVidia had a fierce rivalry for a long time now already.

 

From what I saw in from their recent marketing slides (recent being ~8 years) they mentioned Intel way more in their PR than that they ever did with AMD. I can't remember nVidia ever explicitly comparing their products to AMD like this?

 

 

nvidia.com

 

Thing is, nVidia always wanted to make x86 CPUs and Intel wanted to make powerful discrete GPUs. Neither ended up getting exactly what they wanted.

 

nVidia didn't get their x86 license from Intel and their chipset development was also obstructed by them. nVidia decided to fight Intel with ARM and their CUDA architecture for parallel processing. Intel wanted to fight back with Larrabee in the graphics market, but it turned out that making a massively parallel x86 processor do graphics wasn't easy/cost-effective enough -- it didn't fit in the current programming paradigm.

 

In the end when nVidia announced the Fermi architecture everyone was confused on why it looked so much like a CPU, but with their "CPU like" CUDA architecture and ecosystem they created a new market. Intel then decided to join the market and Larrabee evolved into Xeon Phi. In the end we didn't get Larrabee vs GTX 280, but Tesla vs Xeon Phi.

 

Nowadays HPC is a huge and important market for nVidia (supercomputers are dominated by GPUs and booming), so one could say Intel is a bigger rival for them than AMD at this point.


Edited by TheBlademaster01 - 8/18/16 at 7:33am
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LOL.

intel needs to call out nVidia for reducing detail to keep frames too high.
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LOL.

intel needs to call out nVidia for reducing detail to keep frames too high.

And that's why Intel HD is better than the Titan X.
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If you take into account the chances of getting a DPC latency laden card, I'd puck Intel HD over TitanX
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This has got to be greatest thing I've seen in months.
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This looks like the greatest thing I've seen in months.
Right? this is hysterical.
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Advertising is advertising. This is why we need truly independent benchmark sites to give an objective performance assessment. Sadly with personal biases, sponsorship, and selectivity in terms of which units the vendors send to which reviewer, that is also problematic.
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inb4 civil war between nVidia and Intel fanboys redface.gif

Unfortunately I think that would be anything but civil.
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