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'Let them fight'.


I think NVIDIA cannot see past the dollar signs anymore and forgot who Chipzilla is tongue.gif!

Yeah, Nvidia has a long way to go. Their most expensive GPU is 1200 whereas intel is already at 6800$ per Xeon. thumb.gif
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Yeah, Nvidia has a long way to go. Their most expensive GPU is 1200 whereas intel is already at 6800$ per Xeon. thumb.gif

Cough *Quadro* cough *Tesla* cough
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Yeah, Nvidia has a long way to go. Their most expensive GPU is 1200 whereas intel is already at 6800$ per Xeon. thumb.gif

Ignoring the price which was not the point in my previous point, let us have a look at how many fabs per manufacturer and what they are being used for.


NVIDIA : ZERO fabs
INTEL : google is your friend and add to that that they will allow other manufacturers to use their 10nm process.


So I come back to my post where I say, NVIDIA has forgotten who Chipzilla is because they have been milking ,unchallenged, the customer for a few years. I honestly want NVIDIA to continue with these claims biggrin.gif.


Moorhead added: "Intel now has the capability and the intellectual property to produce nearly any kind of silicon in their state of the art fabs, now including ARM-based silicon.
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meanwhile their Fermi DirectX12 promise is no where to be found.

A liar calling out other cheating? ...uhhhuhhh
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Yeah, Nvidia has a long way to go. Their most expensive GPU is 1200 whereas intel is already at 6800$ per Xeon. thumb.gif

Cough *Quadro* cough *Tesla* cough

Oh yeah! forgot about those. Well then, Prepare for the monopoly battle!
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meanwhile their Fermi DirectX12 promise is no where to be found.

A liar calling out other cheating? ...uhhhuhhh

This and so much more.
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This is going to go down about the same as a primary school bully taking on a high school bully.
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Well, technically if all the products in their competition can run upto 4Gb without loosing significant performance compare to the gimped GTX 970, I think this issue is well justified to be tagged a "*nudge nudge* wink wink*" move by a well established player trying to take unethical advantage of its larger consumer base.

The card has 4GB physically, and it is performing exactly as marketed, to the 1080p category. Even with full 4GB giving the whole performance needed, the card would still not be a 1440p or 4K card, which is the only place where it had issues with memory performance.
So 4GB physically as advertised? Check.
1080p performance as marketed? Check.
Said to not be a 4K card? Check.
The only ones going ape crazy over the card, were either AMD fans, or people trying to run 4K and expect a 980 performance or higher, like yeah, that is going to happen.
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This is understood that Maxwell and Pascal can't do hardware level Async compute + Graphics which is one of the key features of next gen API that future games are going to be made upon. Too bad AMD already has the feature on their current products long before Nvidia even went to the drawing board with Pascal

There are several big key features for DX12. One of them is async compute. Another is rendering translucent objects (not supported by AMD). One is giving more performance, the other is giving more visuals. While Nvidia are already dominating in the performance line, and AMD are only catching up with DX12, you gain more out of nvidia for getting more visuals.

This is a choice in what to support in the overall API. This is also no in the hands of either AMD or nvidia. And a developer not implementing async compute, it makes AMD's support irrelevant for example.
It also makes AMD hindering developers. While nvidia do support async calls (even if its software), developers who want to use other features, are hindered because AMD don't support them at all.

So I don't see AMD as the messier of the DX12. They picked and choose while trying to claim superiority, yet they are playing dirty just like everyone else.
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meanwhile their Fermi DirectX12 promise is no where to be found.

A liar calling out other cheating? ...uhhhuhhh

According to nvidia, even fermi support DX12. While it doesn't support the full hardware of DX12, (nor are AMD cards like GCN 1.0), you can run games which are DX12 only on fermi.
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