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AMD stock is at $7.8 right now. Was at $8.0 for a brief moment today.
$1 more and they are back at 2012 level thumb.gif
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I just recently went to Anandtech Bench and looked up 2600k vs 6700k and was surprised at the gaming results. There isn't much of a difference in the many games they tested. Some games even show 2600k performing better, which makes no sense.

Anand usually biases their game benchmarks to be GPU-bound on purpose and their benchmark database isn't perfect. I'm not aware of any significant regressions from even Haswell to Skylake (let alone sandy bridge) and the expectation is Skylake running some 30% faster than Sandy in most CPU limited games, it's more in a few niche ones.

An inconvenient truth.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/skylake-i7-6700k-lose-to-haswell-i7-4790k-in-gaming.215004/
Shady bench, probably using lowest tier DDR4. Yup, Skylake sucks.
    
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LOL

And I thought many people believe RAM speeds don't matter?

What is going on? redface.gif
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AMD stock is at $7.8 right now. Was at $8.0 for a brief moment today.
$1 more and they are back at 2012 level thumb.gif


My IRA has gone up 70% because of AMD this year alone... thx AMD! Keep that hype train going. It's good for investors... thumb.gif
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And I thought many people believe RAM speeds don't matter?

What is going on? redface.gif

By and large, they don't, but when people are quibbling over a few percent difference, memory can certainly be the deciding factor.
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I'm going to build an all-AMD system next year with one of these. Or a system with a Zen-APU paired with a VEGA GPU. DX12 should allow the graphics processor on the APU and the dGPU work together for unprecedented jigglyflops of quite frankly dangerous levels of performance.
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Now imagine a 4Ghz Skylake in a laptop.

It's the i7 6820HK.

http://ark.intel.com/products/88969/Intel-Core-i7-6820HK-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz

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Overclocking doesn't count, obviously, when comparing to a theoretical stock part.

I'm not comparing it. Even a 2.5 Ghz Skylake will beat 3Ghz Zen no problem.

I just wanted you to imagine how nice it would be. Besides the power consumption.

Made up facts and lies. Alright.

I hear WCCF has an opening btw, if you're interested.
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LOL

And I thought many people believe RAM speeds don't matter?

What is going on? redface.gif

RAM speed doesn't matter above a certain threshold, and that threshold depends on the CPU and whether or not the iGPU would be utilized.

In the case of DDR3, 1600 mhz CAS 9 was by far the most common RAM speed for much of the life of DDR3, and CPUs did not show being bottlenecked by that speed outside of a few specific cases until Haswell. Even with Haswell though, much of the bottlenecking was removed by going to the next step up at 1866 mhz CAS 9.

DDR4 is at the beginning of its life cycle with speed varying from 2133 to 3600+ mhz. Haswell-E showed bottlenecking occurring at speeds below 2400 mhz, and Skylake showed bottlenecking in games at speeds below 2800 mhz if I recall correctly. RAM speed not mattering doesn't apply to the new generation yet.
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I'm going to build an all-AMD system next year with one of these. Or a system with a Zen-APU paired with a VEGA GPU. DX12 should allow the graphics processor on the APU and the dGPU work together for unprecedented jigglyflops of quite frankly dangerous levels of performance.

 

One could even call it... irresponsible?

     
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I'm going to build an all-AMD system next year with one of these. Or a system with a Zen-APU paired with a VEGA GPU. DX12 should allow the graphics processor on the APU and the dGPU work together for unprecedented jigglyflops of quite frankly dangerous levels of performance.

Speaking of which, I need to hit up the club this weekend so someone can beat me in the face with their jigglyflops.
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