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Even so, DX12/Vulkan is the future, and will exploit whatever cores you have, the more the better.

And, recording 4k 60 FPS while playing the game purely on the CPU murders a 4790k, just the combined CPU usage I've seen goes up to 65% on my 5960x @ 4ghz.

Use Intel quick sync built in hardware. 

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Use Intel quick sync built in hardware. 
5960x don't have integrated gpu for quick sync because it doesn't need it, it got 8 Haswell cores already.
     
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5960x don't have integrated gpu for quick sync because it doesn't need it, it got 8 Haswell cores already.

Clearly lol, but using it on a 4790k won't hammer anything. 

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I can see that if you upgrade every year or two, but for 90%+ of the gaming market people hold onto their hardware for even four or five years. For them having six cores with 90% of the single thread performance of a four core CPU is a no-brainer. Even more so for anyone who even dabbles in programs that can use the extra cores, records gameplay, etc, etc.

This pretty much, I knew my 5960x isn't a Skylake, but its single threadedness is still 90% of Skylake with twice the cores.

I hope Zen does this, bring the octocore into the $350-$500 realm. You can only get so much IPC after 30+ years of CPU iterations, but, adding cores is easy, increasing IPC is not.
     
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Yeah, games can and they always have been able to. dx11 itself doesn't scale past 2 cores if you have an AMD graphics card but plenty of games benefit from more

unfortunately several things are still true: Api doesn't really scale at all past 6 cores and it's still very hard to multithread a lot of game-related code.

Vulkan and DX12 does not have issues scaling beyond 6 or whatever cores.

It's up to the developers to make sure their engines scale well with many threads.

None of the explicit graphics APIs automatically give you multi-threaded command buffer submissions, that's up to the engine developers to implement efficiently.

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Clearly lol, but using it on a 4790k won't hammer anything. 
Unless you're doing Youtube 480p encodes, Quick Sync will hammer your quality.
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Loving the results from AMD's actual Zen vs i7-6900K @3.0GHz test. womp womp womp

Same power, international crime free and likely at a lower price!
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Now imagine a 4Ghz Skylake in a laptop.

It's the i7 6820HK.

http://ark.intel.com/products/88969/Intel-Core-i7-6820HK-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz

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Overclocking doesn't count, obviously, when comparing to a theoretical stock part.

I'm not comparing it. Even a 2.5 Ghz Skylake will beat 3Ghz Zen no problem.

I just wanted you to imagine how nice it would be. Besides the power consumption.

Made up facts and lies. Alright.

I hear WCCF has an opening btw, if you're interested.

So you are saying 3Ghz Zen is faster than 2.5Ghz Skylake.

I hope you stand by your words when Zen is released.

Didn't say that. Didn't make any performance claim actually. Said you're making things up and lying.

The making it up was the performance numbers you pulled out of a particularly dark place. The lying was saying the 6820HK was 4Ghz, and was what I called you out on the first time.
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Even so, DX12/Vulkan is the future, and will exploit whatever cores you have, the more the better.


And, recording 4k 60 FPS while playing the game purely on the CPU murders a 4790k, just the combined CPU usage I've seen goes up to 65% on my 5960x @ 4ghz.
Use Intel quick sync built in hardware. 

I mean, if you want trash looking video then I suppose you can do that.
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Didn't say that. Didn't make any performance claim actually. Said you're making things up and lying.

The making it up was the performance numbers you pulled out of a particularly dark place. The lying was saying the 6820HK was 4Ghz, and was what I called you out on the first time.
I mean, if you want trash looking video then I suppose you can do that.

6820hk is unlocked ain't it? 

 

And quick sync quilty is not that bad. 

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Didn't say that. Didn't make any performance claim actually. Said you're making things up and lying.


The making it up was the performance numbers you pulled out of a particularly dark place. The lying was saying the 6820HK was 4Ghz, and was what I called you out on the first time.

I mean, if you want trash looking video then I suppose you can do that.
6820hk is unlocked ain't it? 

And quick sync quilty is not that bad. 

The K would make it unlocked, yes. Still not a 4Ghz chip, it's a lowly 2.7Ghz chip with a nice turbo for one core.

And yes it is. It's absolutely abysmal. If you're playing at 4K, you obviously have an AMD or nVidia GPU anyway, and they have real x264 encoders. Use those instead if you don't want to use your CPU.
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