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for a 1080p game, I think either the game is not going to use more than 3GB or if they do they already stress the GPU core hard enough that memory difference isn't going to matter. But that's just conjecture. Nvidia have gone with the less memory than AMD strategy since Kepler and had no serious problems in games AFAIK.

980 Ti vs Fury X was Nvidia playing with less memory? If you compare 390/390X to a 980, yeah, it's double the memory but the former has 16 memory chips vs latter's 8. And let's not forget 12GB Titan X and XPs.
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980 Ti vs Fury X was Nvidia playing with less memory? If you compare 390/390X to a 980, yeah, it's double the memory but the former has 16 memory chips vs latter's 8. And let's not forget 12GB Titan X and XPs.

Titan XP and Xs are enthusiastic cards and same goes for 980Ti and Fury X. My point is Nvidia have played the less memory game in the mainstream/high end sector(up to X80) game with AMD since the Kepler days(and maybe even before that) and haven't really suffered any problems.
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After getting a $380 980ti the first game i put was rise of tomb raider and even though the card can have everything maxed with msaa and 120 fps in benchmark it cannot handle high res textures even in 1080p,certain areas like russian camp and geothermal area would stutter crazy due to vram limitation and system ram swapping to load textures.I read that doom in nightmare setting consumes 5 vram,soo,bottom line get as much vram possible,vram requirements will skyrocket with newer games even in full hd due to high res textures,hbao+ and new methods of AA.
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After getting a $380 980ti the first game i put was rise of tomb raider and even though the card can have everything maxed with msaa and 120 fps in benchmark it cannot handle high res textures even in 1080p,certain areas like russian camp and geothermal area would stutter crazy due to vram limitation and system ram swapping to load textures.I read that doom in nightmare setting consumes 5 vram,soo,bottom line get as much vram possible,vram requirements will skyrocket with newer games even in full hd due to high res textures,hbao+ and new methods of AA.

You spent $380 on that card, you think people spending 1/2 that amount would even care 1/2 as much about vram consumption as you do(Consumer behavior studies I think dictate they don't) ? As priced drop, people get less picky about specific performance spec and more about how much money they spent.
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For 1080p gaming on a budget, I am pretty sure those people don't actually care about making " the smartest move" or had time/interest to research the implications, otherwise 750Ti/960 2GB wouldn't have sold in droves.
If you're going to buy a card for e-sports, 2GB is likely enough. For anything else, 4GB is really the minimum requirement. Preferably 6GB - 8GB.
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for a 1080p game, I think either the game is not going to use more than 3GB or if they do they already stress the GPU core hard enough that memory difference isn't going to matter. But that's just conjecture. Nvidia have gone with the less memory than AMD strategy since Kepler and had no serious problems in games AFAIK.
Say hello to Shadow of Mordor & Mirror's Edge Catalyst for starters. And that's right now. Gamers on budgets have to think further than just right now, if they're smart. I listened to this same argument when getting my HD6850 way back when I was not so knowledgeable about PC gaming, with 1GB vs 2GB. Right now that GPU is memory limited because I went with the 1GB version. I could play more things right now if I had gone with the 2GB version, even if it would be at minimum settings.
If you want any kind of longevity as a budget gamer, you have to have at least twice the memory of what is considered the minimum requirement for games released at the time you buy your GPU. Right now 2GB is considered minimum for most games, so at least 4 GB is warranted, if you want to use that card for more than 2 years. Depending on your standard, as in, you want medium-high settings in a few years, get double the memory compared to recommended setting, which right now is 8GB.

Also remember.... Games that were ported to PC a few years back were ported from consoles with 512MB of total RAM. Right now we have consoles with 8GB of total RAM, and developers rely on these large memory pools, while before they had to be as efficient as possible with memory. Better to be on the safe side here... There's nothing more annoying than having to lower settings due to memory limits rather than GPU limits.
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You spent $380 on that card, you think people spending 1/2 that amount would even card 1/2 that much about vram consumption as you do?
The point is i should have paid $80-100 more and go for 1070 and the extra 2gb vram.Cards like 1060 and even 480 are strong enough for even 1440p but unless we are talking about the 6gb-8gb versions those who pay $50-60 less to get the gimped 3-4gb versions will find themselves wish they hadn't in new games.
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Sound slike this couldve been a 1050 card instead?
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Look we can spend all day arguing what's the "minimum" for 1080p but as long as benchmarks don't reflect a dramatic decrease of performance that is completely disproportionate to how much slower the card would be in a non VRAM bottlenecked situation, its pretty safe to conclude that 3GB is "enough" for gaming. Remember, this is a value card.

AMD and NVIDIA for the most part ships their graphics units with a reasonable amount of VRAM, so have some faith in them.
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Not with the new cards.They are strong enough to max any game especially at 1080p with the only limitation being vram.Thus if the difference in pricing is no higher than $50-60,a $260 480 8gb is a smarter buy than a $200-210 480 4gb in the long run imo.
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Look we can spend all day arguing what's the "minimum" for 1080p but as long as benchmarks don't reflect a dramatic decrease of performance that is completely disproportionate to how much slower the card would be in a non VRAM bottlenecked situation, its pretty safe to conclude that 3GB is "enough" for gaming. Remember, this is a value card.

AMD and NVIDIA for the most part ships their graphics units with a reasonable amount of VRAM, so have some faith in them.

Considering a 7970ghz runs out vram before it runs out of performance on games like GTA V a card like the 1060 which is a lot more powerful is worthless with 3gb. Vram isn't a matter of having faith in a company... it's a matter of having enough or not. $200 is a lot to waste when you can spend a fraction more for something that's going to last a lot longer. Besides, a lot of people that buy into that market do not upgrade nearly as often as most of us do.

If you only play moba's and mainstream competitve games then a 1060 3gb is worthless yet again as it's more horsepower than you need and you can spend half of it's price and be fine.
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