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Who in their right mind will purchase a 3gb card in this day and age? Minimum 6gb or even 8gb as the consoles have 8gb vram

Plus gta v or similar uses more than that.

This 1060 is similar to 780 ti but now optimised after new architecture this will be obsolete
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Consoles operate a little differently, even if these days consoles use PC hardware. Its console *ports* which PCs can't handle and why the console generation has never regarded the PC as a true gaming platform until recently. Its kind of cheaty tho, I wish my 16GB of DDR3 RAM can become VRAM at will (whether its useful or not is another matter). PCs always had more RAM than a console, but hardware is more segmented for us not-as-savvy folk to replace at will.

3GB is for people looking to upgrade just a GPU alone. The key for this card is to handle Free/GSync at 720-1080p, because that stuff is no VSYNC boy, no VSYNC. I'm pretty sure you don't need a ton of VRAM for *that*.
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So your entire argument boils down to the fact that because most users in that segment (according to you) are ignorant of settings so the 3gb model card is ok. Because at the end of the day that's the only way to justify what you are stressing. The 1060 has been shown to handle 1440p with max settings at great framerates for many games, even new games. What do you not understand about this in relation to the same card having the vram cut in half?

The GPU is almost the same, jsut 10% cut which results in 5% less performance as many review sites claimed for now (benchmarks to be proven follow).

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1440p has no maximum settings. You can always go up with the eye candy, which many enthusiasts do. Adding MSAA, Ultra-Texture and other quality options will raise the bar quite a bit. With its 6Gb the big card should be OK for the time being. The other cards with 3-4Gb from AMD or Nvidia are more limited by nature. Not to mention that the RX-470 / 480 modells are a bit weaker too.

Let's wait for benchmarks before you go on about this forever.

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Game requirements do get higher as time goes you know. How old is the 7970 these days, almost 6 years? Still plenty capable of using it's 3gb's of vram.
So again, why would you knowingly by a card capable of 1440p horsepower wise often w/ max settings but one that can't due to vram limitations? Why not just get a 4gb 480 or save some cash and get a 4gb 470?

Tell me one reason why I should buy a weaker card with way more power consumption just because it has 1GB more RAM? Both buys are a compromise and that is what we have to deal right now. The choice is either / or with no 100% satisfaction. Right now you better get 6 or 8GB models and hope for the best. The RX-series and 1060 are for mainstream to upper mid-class.

Until AMD does someday release VEGA, I would save for the 1070 and be done with this garbage generation... or wait for successors. If you are not that demanding, the $200-$300 is OK for now, but not more.

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The games the buyers of a 1060 3gb as you described would play are more than easily maxed out on a rx 470 for that matter.

The RX470 is not always the better choice. Due to its design its hotter and consumes more while being weaker (stand today). Some of the partner designs have horrible issues with noise, like the Powercolor 4GB RX 470. The Saqqire one is the same, yet adds coil whine as you can read in masses. Except for the 1Gb more nothing peaks for the RX470.

Maybe the whole situation needs time before the cards get rid of their child diseases. Once the price and availability has balanced, we can have a better picture. Reviews are first to see, then we can judge more clearly too.

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The fact that you think Win 10 failed is the real issue here. DX12 is gaining traction faster than DX10 and DX11 by far.

You seriously believe the marketing lies of Microsoft? After 2 years I still only see a handfull of games with somehow tinkered together DX12 ports. There are more issues than you can count. Almost every new DX12 title is a mess in some ways. If this is a success to you ... I don't know.

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I'm glad kids get birthday money, that's cool and all, but has nothing to do with making a smart purchase or not. A video card isn't a car, it's not going to take you back and forth to work and you certainly don't NEED one.

It is never about smart choices, it's about what you need. If you know that, you can judge when you are able and willing to buy it.
In case none of the products offers you enough, you don't buy. For you I see it differntly. When people buy something you don't like, the world will still turn further.
post #154 of 332
I think the decision comes down to whether you want the faster card(1060 3GB) or more vram(RX470).
AMD made a big pricing mistake with the RX470. If one could buy an RX470 8GB for $200 ,1060 3GB would truly be the laughing stock.AMD got greedy so 1060 3GB no longer looks like such a bad deal.Fact.
    
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Who in their right mind will purchase a 3gb card in this day and age? Minimum 6gb or even 8gb as the consoles have 8gb vram

Plus gta v or similar uses more than that.

This 1060 is similar to 780 ti but now optimised after new architecture this will be obsolete

The one who wants a faster card and is willing to hit the vram wall.biggrin.gif
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Not gonna consider this although I like the price ... as I am running 1440p , 3gb isn't sufficient for the future.

For optimum performance 3 GB isn't sufficient for 1080p either.
Forza Motorsport 6 uses upto 4 GB at max settings on 1680 x 1050.
Doom 2016 easily utilizes 3 GB on 1600 x 900.
Quantum Break is at ~3GB at 1600 x 900.
Ashes of Singularity DX12 uses ~4.1 GB at 1600 x 900.

The surprising thing is even if you turn down graphics settings there is not much difference in Vram usage as compared to high/ultra. These generation of games cleary are vram hog.
If you want to buy nVidia go for GTX 1060 6GB instead or the best buy will be any of the cheapest AMD RX 480 8GB.
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The surprising thing is even if you turn down graphics settings there is not much difference in Vram usage as compared to high/ultra.

Not really. That simply indicates that those applications like to reserve all the memory they have. Usage =/= need.
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3GB is plenty enough for 1080p as 4GB is enough for 1440p.

Only way it isn't enough is if you use 4k textures, which you don't need. But I would still pick 470. This is very similar to 680 vs 7970 and we all know how that ended.
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Not really. That simply indicates that those applications like to reserve all the memory they have. Usage =/= need.

I understand you are meaning by "cache". But since higher cache contribute to lower latency and less work to load files from the disk, more cache is obviously better. And the reason that a particular game uses that much VRAM because it was designed to eat so, why ? For optimum performance. It might not improve fps, but it can surely improve the "Quality" of fps (micro stuttering). Just saying, some people can't detect that microstuttering but it still it would be better to have a card with as much vram as possible for at your price point.
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It will stutter crazy

It may run but will stutter
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