Originally Posted by tpi2007
As I already said, Germany isn't the only country in Europe or in the Eurozone. In my country the difference between the 3GB and 6 GB 1060 you are pointing out is half of that, 31 Eur, not 60.
Germany may not be the only country in Europe or the Eurozone, yet it is one of the biggest markets there. Expect France, Spain and of course th UK we got lots of gamers who are ehnthusiastic and ready enough to pay for our hobby. Be it ingame transactions or upgrading the hardware itelf regularly.
In my older posts I wrote that the prices are all over the place right now. When the actual situation with the availability and price gauging settles, we will see a better picture of what card is where to find. The AMD cards are as good as not available and expensive. Nvidia is just flooding the market with all kinds of 1060's while 1070's and 1080's are well in stock.
After the price fights have occured, the costs for a graphics card hopefully are down enough. Too bad there are way to many gamers who need a new card now. Be it because of a defect or just terrible outdated hardware in the PCs.Then there is another faction:
-Those who just want a stepping stone for 1 or 2 years. Maybe they want to have somthing until either Vega/ Navi or Volta arrive. You can bet those guys will get the cheapest card available. In this segment, 30-50€ is too much for them because they know of their future upgrade already and save the money for that.
Originally Posted by tpi2007
Between a 780 Ti 3GB or a 770 with 4GB? How about neither? The 780 Ti was poor value in terms of future with only 3 GB of VRAM, a business decision by Nvidia to not hurt Titan and Titan Black sales and the GTX 770 was a rebranded GPU that threw efficiency out the window to catch the HD 7970 Ghz Edition, while still being more compute limited.
How about an R9 290X?
The example was not good from the beginning because of the history of all those cards. I made it because someone brought the 780 Ti into this. My attempt was to show how nonsensical the VRAM hype was if the performance is not there. Since the 780 Ti was once the flagship high-end model, there is no way to compare this to a budget mainstream offer.
The goal focused on the similar performanc delta a 780 Ti (3GB) vs 770 (4GB) would have. I saw a similar situation as with the 1060 and RX400 series, although reviews are still missing to proof anything. This was by no means a buy suggestion. God no, don't ever buy a well outdated 28nm card unless you get the deal of your life in the used market.
To add the older AMD cards in the example would have brought nothing into the discussion. As we all know, many AMD cards need several revisions and redesigns untill the AIBs have found the right balance for an outstanding product. Not to mention a ton of driver updates until AMD can finally pull the raw performance on the street. Sadly we can not know which model is to buy when. This will reveal in the future where it is then pure luck if you picked the right card to the correct point in time.
I guess the best time to upgrade will be somewhen 2017 or 2018. At those times the FinFET nodes will be matured and all the child diseases solved. No matter what you buy now, the card will be outdated within 1-2 years anyways and replaced fast.