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I said the difference is clock speed and memory in my post

Not sure what this has got to do with AMD , the fact of the matter is that Nvidia is selling two different chips under the same reference. This is wrong , they should have called the 3gb 1050 or the 6gb one 1060ti
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I said the difference is clock speed and memory in my post

Not sure what this has got to do with AMD , the fact of the matter is that Nvidia is selling two different chips under the same reference. This is wrong , they should have called the 3gb 1050 or the 6gb one 1060ti

Sorry, I wasn't referring to you, rather the person who formula m quotes in bold. I'll rephrase that (edit: done).

And yes, I agree, this card should the the 1050 Ti or the full chip be called 1060 Ti instead. Or they could do the GTX 260 216 core or 560 Ti 448 Core thing and append the number of cores at the end of the model name.
Edited by tpi2007 - 8/24/16 at 8:17am
 
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http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/deus_ex_mankind_divided_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,9.html
3gb of vram is becoming insufficient with each new game even at full hd,so another game you won't play at max if you buy a 1060 3gb right now.Of course by the look of things cards like 980ti are starting to lack horsepower even at 1080p for 60 fps,the hell is going on?Oh,the old days when i was reading posts that you have to be crazy to buy a 980ti for 1080p:)
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Originally Posted by daviejams View Post

I said the difference is clock speed and memory in my post

Not sure what this has got to do with AMD , the fact of the matter is that Nvidia is selling two different chips under the same reference. This is wrong , they should have called the 3gb 1050 or the 6gb one 1060ti

AMD is in this discussion because of the differences in the 4/8GB versiosn of their RX series. There you have differences too in the used memory and other technical specs as tpi2007 mentioned. With this in mind the heat about the 1060 is strange. Why is everyone so hung up about a potential 1050 naming? Both GTX1060's have the same GP106 chips as base with slight modifications to 1sm.

Is this small change that automatically requires the naming of the card change? I fear this scenario because in the late 90's we had half a dozen names for the same chips. It was so confusing and whenever a new offer / card came up you had to compare every damn card with lots of sheet tables and reviews to even have a clue in what performance class the hardware is in.

The GTX 1060 3GB is not that far away from its bigger brother. A "1050 label" would indicate othewise and meaning a complete other class meaning a 75W if the latest naming conventions stay the same. An additilan "TI" would not change anything. With overclocked core up to way over 1800 MHz this card performs within reach of the 6GB version in raw performance. At the same time it has the same 8000 MHz memory clock and 192-Bit memory interface. Would the last two have changed, it could be reason to rename the card, but not otherwise.

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http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/deus_ex_mankind_divided_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,9.html
3gb of vram is becoming insufficient with each new game even at full hd,so another game you won't play at max if you buy a 1060 3gb right now.Of course by the look of things cards like 980ti are starting to lack horsepower even at 1080p for 60 fps,the hell is going on?Oh,the old days when i was reading posts that you have to be crazy to buy a 980ti for 1080p:)

Forget about such ***** tier console ports. Not even a Titan X(P) can play this game fluent with Ultra settings. It's not about the VRAM but the bad implementation of the engine and the techs involved. For what it delivers the graphic is not good enough throughout the game to entitle such a performance hunger.
Edited by Hardware Hoshi - 8/24/16 at 8:20am
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AMD is in this discussion because of the differences in the 4/8GB versiosn of their RX series. There you have differences too in the used memory and other technical specs as tpi2007 mentioned. With this in mind the heat about the 1060 is strange. Why is everyone so hung up about a potential 1050 naming? Both GTX1060's have the same GP106 chips as base with slight modifications to 1sm.

Is this small change that automatically requires the naming of the card change? I fear this scenario because in the late 90's we had half a dozen names for the same chips. It was so confusing and whenever a new offer / card came up you had to compare every damn card with lots of sheet tables and reviews to even have a clue in what performance class the hardware is in.

The GTX 1060 3GB is not that far away from its bigger brother. A "1050 label" would indicate othewise and meaning a complete other class meaning a 75W if the latest naming conventions stay the same. An additilan "TI" would not change anything. With overclocked core up to way over 1800 MHz this card performs within reach of the 6GB version in raw performance. At the same time it has the same 8000 MHz memory clock and 192-Bit memory interface. Would the last two have changed, it could be reason to rename the card, but not otherwise.

For the 3rd time now , all the RX480's are the same chip. Yes they have different clock speeds and memory but they are still all the same chip

GTX1060 uses two different chips , one a full chip and the other a cut down version

Nvidia are not clear that the cut down version is not the same as the full chip , this is wrong. People may well buy the cut down one thinking they are getting a full 1060
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Is this small change that automatically requires the naming of the card change? I fear this scenario because in the late 90's we had half a dozen names for the same chips. It was so confusing and whenever a new offer / card came up you had to compare every damn card with lots of sheet tables and reviews to even have a clue in what performance class the hardware is in.

The GTX 1060 3GB is not that far away from its bigger brother. A "1050 label" would indicate othewise and meaning a complete other class meaning a 75W if the latest naming conventions stay the same. An additilan "TI" would not change anything. With overclocked core up to way over 1800 MHz this card performs within reach of the 6GB version in raw performance. At the same time it has the same 8000 MHz memory clock and 192-Bit memory interface. Would the last two have changed, it could be reason to rename the card, but not otherwise.

Yes, it does require a name change. Because simply saying 3 GB without anything else is by definition misleading, it points to the card simply having 3 GB instead of 6 and that's not the end of it as we know.

As I said above, Nvidia has done it right before. GTX 260 Core 216, GTX 560 Ti, 448 Core Edition. Interestingly in these cases, when it's to denote a better card they do it right away.

They have also launched the GTX 650 Ti Boost, which is a cut GF106 die, essentially just below GTX 660 performance, so yes, they have done it before and it would be the right thing to do here. 1050 Ti would fit just fine. And let's not forget the 660 Ti which was was based on the GTX 680 / 670 die.

But if not, 1060 3GB LE would do too.
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For the 3rd time now , all the RX480's are the same chip. Yes they have different clock speeds and memory but they are still all the same chip

GTX1060 uses two different chips , one a full chip and the other a cut down version

Nvidia are not clear that the cut down version is not the same as the full chip , this is wrong. People may well buy the cut down one thinking they are getting a full 1060

Yes, and expecting a full chip is self-misleading. You don't buy the chip alone but the card as a package. There is no indication or obligation to always release the same setting. That would be strange because in manufacturing there are always different models. Escpecially in a very complex electronical device like a graphics card. Everyone is just so hung up about this without reason. The spec sheet is not distributet without reason. There are a ton of figures there and every single one effects the product.
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Forget about such ***** tier console ports. Not even a Titan X(P) can play this game fluent with Ultra settings. It's not about the VRAM but the bad implementation of the engine and the techs involved. For what it delivers the graphic is not good enough throughout the game to entitle such a performance hunger.

Do you read before posting at all?

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/deus_ex_mankind_divided_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,6.html

80fps on ultra

109fps on high

That is not playable? Stop using the console ports excuse. You either play games or don't. Stop calling anything that shows higher memory usage or higher requirements (we are almost in the year 2017) a crappy port.

I can understand you are upset seeing a RX 470 do better than a 1060 6gb, but it's ok. Rest assured the 1060 3gb will barely touch 30fps, if it even does that is at 1080p considering a 780ti just hits 30fps.

Always feels good to see those AMD rebranded you spout on and on about being 2fps behind a 980ti.

<--- grins at 290x yet again. Hawaii continues to impress.
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Do you read before posting at all?

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/deus_ex_mankind_divided_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,6.html

80fps on ultra

109fps on high

That is not playable? Stop using the console ports excuse. You either play games or don't. Stop calling anything that shows higher memory usage or higher requirements (we are almost in the year 2017) a crappy port.

I can understand you are upset seeing a RX 470 do better than a 1060 6gb, but it's ok. Rest assured the 1060 3gb will barely touch 30fps, if it even does that is at 1080p considering a 780ti just hits 30fps.

I have seen more than one review and the top numbers vary quite a bit. The fact that alot of cards can not play this title on 60 FPS is mindblowing. I know you would defend the 470/480 as soon as you name showed up. FYI that is an AMD "Gaming Evolved" title. What makes it worse is that not even the equivalant AMD cards can hit higher than 30-40 FPS. How much worse can it get, that is not not playable to me.

In short all card up to $300 can not play this. So much for the comparison.
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I have seen more than one review and the top numbers vary quite a bit. The fact that alot of cards can not play this title on 60 FPS is mindblowing. I know you would defend the 470/480 as soon as you name showed up. FYI that is an AMD "Gaming Evolved" title. What makes it worse is that not even the equivalant AMD cards can hit higher than 30-40 FPS. How much worse can it get, that is not not playable to me.

In short all card up to $300 can not play this. So much for the comparison.

Again, seriously, do you read before posting? The review was linked to you multiple times... But here you go:




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