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My bad. Zen is going to match Broadwell-E in everything because it matches it in blender.

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actually beats Intel.
get your facts right.
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My bad. 1 Zen core at 1 Ghz beats intel 22 core at 2.5Ghz.

GG intel.
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You know its all very good, but aren't AMD CPU's currently having similar clock 2 clock performance in blender??



I mean Excavator in dual channel would also get similar score with Boardwell clock for clock.
Let's say future Bristol Ridge 2m/4c part or Carrizo. headscratch.gif

Edit: Steamroller core +40% equals 237.
Edited by Pro3ootector - 8/19/16 at 10:02am
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You know its all very good, but aren't AMD CPU's currently having similar clock 2 clock performance in blender??

I mean Excavator in dual channel would also get similar score with Boardwell clock for clock.
Let's say future Bristol Ridge 2m/4c part or Carrizo. headscratch.gif

Edit: Steamroller core +40% equals 237.

You're comparing a dual-core (i3) to a quad-core (Athlon). Same number of threads isn't a fair comparison when HT is a ~20% average performance increase and CMT is more like 80%.
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You're comparing a dual-core (i3) to a quad-core (Athlon). Same number of threads isn't a fair comparison when HT is a ~20% average performance increase and CMT is more like 80%.

Interesting. Someone would have to test 6900k at 3GHZ.



8 core /16 T Summit Ridge has double performance of 4M/8C Vishera ( according to AMD ) still that is 16T processor.
Edited by Pro3ootector - 8/19/16 at 10:27am
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SO if you add a 10-20% IPC from crabby lake, It has a 120-130% faster IPC then zen with x265?
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SO if you add a 10-20% IPC from crabby lake, It has a 120-130% faster IPC then zen with x265?

107% faster than Piledriver + 10% faster = 2.07 x 1.10 = 2.277x Piledriver
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107% faster than Piledriver + 10% faster = 2.07 x 1.10 = 2.277x Piledriver
Ok thanks for the clarification.
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A 10% ipc gain for kaby lake is based on what info?
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Just want to point out that IPC is not a limiting factor in Workd of Warcraft, that's the APIs Drawcall support, they really need to implement DX12 in that game.

How many draw calls per second a CPU can issue at a given clock speed with a given API is a measure of IPC.
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You're comparing a dual-core (i3) to a quad-core (Athlon). Same number of threads isn't a fair comparison when HT is a ~20% average performance increase and CMT is more like 80%.

Same number of threads isn't a fair comparison, but not because of any performance differential. SMT operates within a core and is a way of extracting more IPC (though via TLP not ILP), while SMT adds another core.
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A 10% ipc gain for kaby lake is based on what info?

Just guessing a 10-20% gain because of all the past intel releases from new cpu to new cpu was those gains. Who knows it could be a giant leap.
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