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I'm curious about it's power consumption as well. Yes, it hardly matters on the HEDT, but you all know as well as I do that if it uses a mere 10w more than a comparable intel it will be labelled as a fire hazard.

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At 5 GHz, I'm sure you do. I'm running mine at 4.2 at 1.08V for my ITX build. Nothing wrong with it, I was just planning a Zen build, and I built this computer to play the current games. I wouldn't mind waiting a bit since I have my consoles, and this build's money could ease the pain on the Zen build. And if I sell now, I can get decent price for the parts before Intel price cuts the 6700K, thus in effect making out 4790K worth slightly less. I mean, I got this 4790K for about $270 OTD lol, so I got a steal as it is.

I wouldn't personally sell a 4790k just yet... for all you know it may end up being a downgrade depending on how well Zen clocks. If you use software that needs more cores, sure I can see you wanting to upgrade due to the blender results, but no point jumping the gun yet. Especially being that gaming seems to be your main use of the pc from what I understand.
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You're so naive, the 6900k is going for 1000$ and you're expecting amd to start a charity to
gain marketshare?! quite the opposite. Zen is going to be priced competitive; if performance is around intel's offering the the price is going to be around intel's offering. THATS what gains marketshare.

-an "AMD fanboy"

Have fun paying $900 for a competitive product

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How many Zen CPUs can I buy for the price of 1 Intel 6900K. 2 maybe 3?
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How many Zen CPUs can I buy for the price of 1 Intel 6900K. 2 maybe 3?
you can buy three 6700K's
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you can buy three 6700K's

I would like to buy an i3-6100 also please.
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I'm curious about it's power consumption as well. Yes, it hardly matters on the HEDT, but you all know as well as I do that if it uses a mere 10w more than a comparable intel it will be labelled as a fire hazard.
I wouldn't personally sell a 4790k just yet... for all you know it may end up being a downgrade depending on how well Zen clocks. If you use software that needs more cores, sure I can see you wanting to upgrade due to the blender results, but no point jumping the gun yet. Especially being that gaming seems to be your main use of the pc from what I understand.

Pretty much, not really a power user here in terms of CAD and 3D modeling.
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I forgot I need 3 aftermarket coolers also. So no i3. Maybe a G3258?
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You're so naive, the 6900k is going for 1000$ and you're expecting amd to start a charity to
gain marketshare?! quite the opposite. Zen is going to be priced competitive; if performance is around intel's offering the the price is going to be around intel's offering. THATS what gains marketshare.

-an "AMD fanboy"

It's going to be 800-900 dollars for 8 cores vs the 1089 for 8 cores
550 for 6 cores full pci-e lanes vs 6850K's 600+
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Bare minimum, this should stop Intel's PCI-E lane splitting shenanigans, although much more seismic changes are desired.
    
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My bad. Zen is going to match Broadwell-E in everything because it matches it in blender.

Single thread performance doesn't matter because it's 2016, and 8 core Zen is going to cost $250 because AMD cares about consumers' wallets.

Am I doing this right?

Edit: How is that review irrelevant? AMD claimed Zen to be 40% faster than Excavator, and that is an Excavator review.

 

 

Wouldn't you know, but Blender also uses single thread performance. And it is nearly equal to broadwell-e clock for clock. So, what do all intel chips normalized to the same clock, end up looking like? Which one has the most ipc?

 

 

Subsequently, you are reading the slides & presentation wrong. AMD has not released Zen's performance figures. Though, they did say that Zen's IPC is 40% more than Excavator, a was mentioned as one of the goals for AMD's team. Not the only goal, just one of them. 

 

ergo: Zen is not 40% faster than excavator, is has 40% more ipc than Excavator. Zen's actual architecture might yield other improvements and end up being 55% more efficient. We don't know, only that we know it can compute more per cycle.

 

 

Also, Excavator is not Zen.

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