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Jim Keller to the rescue.. lol..
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I agree with everyone that the initial impression Zen is leaving is quite positive but the one thing I worry about is the launch date. This would be an absolutely monster release for AMD if they were to put out the 8 core chip in the next month or so (if the rumors of parity with Broadwell-e are true, big IF) but by 1H 2017 the performance will seem a little less exciting depending on what Intel does. In the end, if Zen does come within striking distance of Broadwell-e it will be a huge accomplishment for AMD regardless of when it releases but marketing-wise they sure could use that infusion of excitement into their "brand" right now rather than 8-10 months from now (and of course that's assuming it comes even close to Broadwell which certainly seems possible, if not exactly probable)...
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Well, BW-E is kinda slow as overclocker. HW-E can still be much faster and nicer. Perhaps they should compare it to Skylake at normal frequency.
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I don't think anybody being realistic is expecting Zen to outright BEAT Intel's latest and greatest chips hands down. That would be beyond remarkable. I think, rather, most of us who are optimistic about Zen would be thrilled to see a chip that was simply competitive given how far behind AMD has been with their CPU's since 2011.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

I don't think anybody being realistic is expecting Zen to outright BEAT Intel's latest and greatest chips hands down. That would be beyond remarkable. I think, rather, most of us who are optimistic about Zen would be thrilled to see a chip that was simply competitive given how far behind AMD has been with their CPU's since 2011.

I agree.

What I expect personally is Haswell IPC and pricing 20-25% less than its competing intel counterpart. Mainly referring to the Z series chipset CPU's. from intel.
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I agree.

What I expect personally is Haswell IPC and pricing 20-25% less than its competing intel counterpart. Mainly referring to the Z series chipset CPU's. from intel.

And if what you expect to happen actually comes true it would be a monumental achievement for AMD.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

And if what you expect to happen actually comes true it would be a monumental achievement for AMD.

Yes I'll definitely crap purple twinkies that's for sure biggrin.gif
post #318 of 580
Imagination could be unlimited before any real testing data comes out, I expect the stock price of AMD crashes when that happens after raising so much recently with Zen dream:D
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Doubtful. The fact that AMD still manages to sell BD derivatives at all should tell you that a competitive product from AMD (and by that I mean in the Haswell arena) will likely sell in droves. I know people are sceptics after BD and that's fine but I've got Piledriver and Excavator around and use them near-daily without becoming emotionally scarred. I have more difficulty believing that AMD's bid for survival, designed by Jim Keller, will be a total flop than I do in believing that Zen will be competitive in the mainstream.

     
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The video mainly tells me all of this looks like AMD just tries to push up their stock price without really doing anything. If Zen is really that strong, why not shows us any number of testing data at all? Not even 1 number 1 stats? Who knows what was running with that game in demo? It could be a $10,000 system with crazy cooling to stop the heat of Zen.
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