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So AMD ZEN Pricing. Based on what you know right now.

250$ US or less, would you buy it? <---- This is where I stand.

300$ US or less, would you buy it?

500$ US or less, would you buy it?

If I can get i7-6700k performance for 250 USD I'll buy it

If I can get i7-6900k Performance for (DREAMING HERE) 600 USD, but more realistic around 799.99, I'll probably bite.
But I've noticed that I'm probably going to downsize to a mATX mobo soon so yeah...
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$500 is about as much as I'm willing to pay for a CPU or GPU, and it needs to be something special for that price. If Zen offers strong performance for 400-500, I'd be on it without much reservation.
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I'll go as high as £550 (so $600ish) for my gaming rig but the performance has got to be there. I'm really looking at the platform en toto, as my next real upgrade is going to be Skylake-X or Zen. That's not to say that I expect Skylake-X performance from Zen, but rather that whichever provides the right features at the best price/performance will get my money. Zen's scalability and the unity of the AM4 platform means that we should be able to see 42+ PCIe lanes, quad-channel RAM, etc.

 

Modern platform features and Haswell-ish IPC with a mainstream i7-k price would win me over but I see that as a best-case scenario.

     
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Pricing for me would probably have to fall under $800 CAD including a really good motherboard, so probably $550 CAD at msot for the processor is what I'd be willing to go with. it would also be a really nice benefit if any motherboards that use the new Zen processors are available with highly capable VRM sections, dedicated lanes for two M.2 2280 SSD's, and a memory section that can handle the higher speed DDR4 (say, BDie CL14 DDR4-3200 as a worst case scenario for slowest), PLUS have no surcharge for a bunch of extra gear that's pointless flash (LED lighting and the "armor" some companies have adopted come to mind).... And if they come with an external AMP/DAC, that there's an option to purchase JUST the motherboard (none of this Rampage V Extreme Edition 10 nonsense where the price is inflated $200ish CAD and there's no board only option so if you want the board you have to pay through the nose to get it).

Basically, I want something that's rock solid like Gigabyte's X99 SOC Champion where it's a powerhouse board that you can put a good CPU into and it'll take a beating and just keep going.
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Pricing for me would probably have to fall under $800 CAD including a really good motherboard, so probably $550 CAD at msot for the processor is what I'd be willing to go with. it would also be a really nice benefit if any motherboards that use the new Zen processors are available with highly capable VRM sections, dedicated lanes for two M.2 2280 SSD's, and a memory section that can handle the higher speed DDR4 (say, BDie CL14 DDR4-3200 as a worst case scenario for slowest), PLUS have no surcharge for a bunch of extra gear that's pointless flash (LED lighting and the "armor" some companies have adopted come to mind).... And if they come with an external AMP/DAC, that there's an option to purchase JUST the motherboard (none of this Rampage V Extreme Edition 10 nonsense where the price is inflated $200ish CAD and there's no board only option so if you want the board you have to pay through the nose to get it).

Basically, I want something that's rock solid like Gigabyte's X99 SOC Champion where it's a powerhouse board that you can put a good CPU into and it'll take a beating and just keep going.

 

I know that feel. I strongly prefer Sabertooth boards as they typically offer near-peak features (at least the ones I care about) without making my PC look like a red-light district (not that there's anything wrong with that!). Whether I go with Zen or Skylake-X I've a suspicion I'll end up favouring the Sabertooth once more, not least because ASUS (IMO) makes the strongest AMD boards around and the Intel Sabertooth range hasn't let me down thus far.

     
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Let's assume Zen have the same IPC as Broadwell E, by the time Zen comes to live, Intel probably have Canon Lake/ Skylake E, and again several gen ahead of AMD biggrin.gif
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Let's assume Zen have the same IPC as Broadwell E, by the time Zen comes to live, Intel probably have Canon Lake/ Skylake E, and again several gen ahead of AMD biggrin.gif

 

That's really of more consequence on the GPU side though. Intel's generational improvements are much more incremental, which means that reaching Haswell IPC would put Zen in a competitive position provided that the rest of the platform is competitive with Intel features-wise.

     
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That's really of more consequence on the GPU side though. Intel's generational improvements are much more incremental, which means that reaching Haswell IPC would put Zen in a competitive position provided that the rest of the platform is competitive with Intel features-wise.
and suddenly AMD wants to price their 8c16t zen at 900$ biggrin.gif
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Doubtful, IMO. :p I expect an absolute max of $600 USD for the best desktop part based on the assumption of Haswell-ish performance in most tasks (some better and some worse I'm sure). The concept of not being the "budget brand" any longer does not necessarily mean pricing parts at Intel/Nvidia levels. Look at Fury X, which struggled against the 980 Ti and was roundly criticised for the price because of that, yet was intended at first to compete against Titan X at nearly half the price. Rory Read was still in charge when the 9590 came out at $1k; new management still makes some bad choices but they're not pants-on-head as they were in 2012-2013.

     
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So AMD ZEN Pricing. Based on what you know right now.

250$ US or less, would you buy it? <---- This is where I stand.

300$ US or less, would you buy it?

500$ US or less, would you buy it?

I expect 600 for the top SKU. I budget about 1k for CPU,board and DDR4 for it. Mobos will be cheaper than X99 for sure.
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