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Please recommend me a cheap & decent low profile/short CPU heatsink cooler, $30 or less.

I have Haswell rig in an Apevia BK-500 HTPC case, which can only take CPU heatsinks of up to a max of ~4.5 inches in height.

Please recommend me a good and cheap cooler that performs better than the Intel stock cooler. I'm currently running a G3258 OCed to 4.0GHz with the Intel Stock cooler (max temps of ~65'C), and may switch to a higher TDP Haswell quad core (95w) in the future and may lightly overclock it. (so TDP doesn't significantly exceed 95w, but 130w leeway would be good)

I've taken a look at a few (eg. Cooler Master Vortex looks good. Thermaletake Slim x3 is a disaster.)
Edited by Bluescreendeath - 8/19/16 at 12:21pm
post #2 of 23
The Scythe Big Shuriken was the first thing that sprang to mind, but they are ridiculously priced in the US. Cryorig C7 would be an excellent choice, and you can usually find them for ~$35.
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Originally Posted by Bluescreendeath View Post

Please recommend me a cheap & decent low profile/short CPU heatsink cooler, $30 or less.

I have Haswell rig in an Apevia BK-500 HTPC case, which can only take CPU heatsinks of up to a max of ~4.5 inches in height.

Please recommend me a good and cheap cooler that performs better than the Intel stock cooler. I'm currently running a G3258 OCed to 4.0GHz with the Intel Stock cooler (max temps of ~65'C), and may switch to a higher TDP Haswell quad core (95w) in the future and may lightly overclock it. (so TDP doesn't significantly exceed 95w, but 130w leeway would be good)

I've taken a look at a few (eg. Cooler Master Vortex looks good. Thermaletake Slim x3 is a disaster.)

I personally have (just kidding,) my girlfriend has the Cryorig C7, which you can get for $30 on newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF39D5213

Pros: easy to install, very quiet, sexy, recommended for stock speeds, PWM fan, very low profile, solid, good packaging => pretty much all you can expect from an aftermarket cpu cooler
Cons: I wouldn't recommend for o.c. but she has the i5-6500; fan isn't removable

p.s. CM master vortex looks okay, but seems a bit outdated since it was released in 2010. People have complained about it's mounting (installation) and noise. At $40, you could get the Noctua NH-L9i 95mm SSO2 CPU Cooler which is decent at low-profile cpu cooling, but I think at $30 the Cryorig C7 is a better value.

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Thanks guys. I've checked out some of your recommendations. My top 3 so far are: Cryorig C7, CM Vortex Plus, and ID-Cooling IS40.

The best cooling potential seems to be the CM Vortex Plus, since reviews show it's capable of 130w TDP cooling (reviews are testing it with Core2Quad QX series at 130w @ stock and overclocked).
The Cryorig C7 and ID-Cooling IS40 can both do about 95-100w TDP cooling and fail around 130w TDP.

As bbo mentioned, the mounting system for the CM Vortex seems to suck (crappy intel push pins). Whereas the IS40 and C7 both have screw mounting systems.

CM Vortex
Pros:
-Best cooling potential at 130w TDP, can overclock quad cores
-Cheapest of the 3 at $25
-don't have to take out the mobo to install due to push pins
Cons:
-Push pins are a crappy mounting system
-looks kinda ugly/slightly bigger than the others

IS40
Pros:
-Low profile/looks sleek
-Good mounting system
Cons:
-$5 more than the CM Vortex at $30
-Less cooling potential than the CM Vortex, can't overclock quad cores

Cryorig C7
Pros:
-Low profile/looks sleek
-Good mounting system
Cons:
-$5 more than the CM Vortex at $30
-Less cooling potential than the CM Vortex, can't overclock quad cores


Anyone else suggest more pros/cons?
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usually overclocking involves a bigger heatsink with several heatpipes for better heat dissipation. It's that, or using all-in-one closed liquid cooling. The fact you're using a HTPC probably implicates more movies and streaming, and thus the low demand for overclocking + heat output. Thus, i would recommend low-noise => cryorig's C7.

However, let's say you have a desktop mid-tower or full tower case with a budget of $90+. Then you will find exponential cooling down to 64C at the high end, under ideal conditions, such as a case with good airflow and space for the heatsink.

HTPC cases, on the the other hand, lack ventilation plus space. It's compact. It's not optimal for overclocking but rather streaming and movies or basic computer tasks.

Bottom line is that your case and budget limits your options of wanting to overclock (you want bigger physical dimensions for that in regards to air cooling).
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post #6 of 23
The Vortex Plus does not come close to the C7. TDP ratings are not regulated, ignore them. The C7 will out cool it with less noise.
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The Vortex Plus does not come close to the C7. TDP ratings are not regulated, ignore them. The C7 will out cool it with less noise.

Listen to this man. He really does know what's he's says he knows. (At least this time tongue.gif)

They can state a 130W TDP even if the processor is throttling, just as long as the cooler doesn't catch fire, it's a valid spec. Hell, it's CM, even if it catches fire, it's still a valid spec.

And pushpins are for cork memo boards, not for any 95W cpu you might have the hots to overclock.

The only low cost* low profile pancake cooler for mild overclocking on haswell I would suggest is the AXP100 or Big Shmrigken - even then, it needs to be on the weak side of mild.

If there's 73mm of clearance for the cooler and a stable OC is important, then the Cryorig C1 is the best low priced option**

* - According to the National Air Coolers Board of Pricing, less than $50 is considered low cost**.

** - According to the National CLC Board of Profitability, less than $150 is considered low cost
post #8 of 23
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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

The Vortex Plus does not come close to the C7. TDP ratings are not regulated, ignore them. The C7 will out cool it with less noise.
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Originally Posted by MicroCat View Post

Listen to this man. He really does know what's he's says he knows. (At least this time tongue.gif)

They can state a 130W TDP even if the processor is throttling, just as long as the cooler doesn't catch fire, it's a valid spec. Hell, it's CM, even if it catches fire, it's still a valid spec.

And pushpins are for cork memo boards, not for any 95W cpu you might have the hots to overclock.

The only low cost* low profile pancake cooler for mild overclocking on haswell I would suggest is the AXP100 or Big Shmrigken - even then, it needs to be on the weak side of mild.

If there's 73mm of clearance for the cooler and a stable OC is important, then the Cryorig C1 is the best low priced option**

* - According to the National Air Coolers Board of Pricing, less than $50 is considered low cost**.

** - According to the National CLC Board of Profitability, less than $150 is considered low cost


I'm not just going off of the manufacturer's own tdp rating. Hardwaresecrets did a review of the Cooler Master Vortex Plus with a Core2Extreme QX6850 (stock 130watt TDP), and overclocked it to 3.33Ghz (with additional voltage I presume).

The CM Vortex Plus reached 78'C at full load - this is at least 130watts, and probably more due to the overclock.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/cooler-master-vortex-plus-cpu-cooler-review/7/

TweakTown also did reviews of the Vertex Plus, and it also did pretty well. It performed better than the Arctic Cooling LP7 and Cooler Master TX2 by 4'C. The later two are rated for 95-100watts.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3241/cooler_master_vortex_plus_cpu_cooler/index6.html

Max load: 61'C over room temp, comparable to the Noctura NH-C12P


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If there's 73mm of clearance for the cooler and a stable OC is important, then the Cryorig C1 is the best low priced option**

* - According to the National Air Coolers Board of Pricing, less than $50 is considered low cost**.

** - According to the National CLC Board of Profitability, less than $150 is considered low cost

The C1 costs $65 - that is more than twice my stated budget of $30. And of course a bunch of organizations who are involved in manufacturing air coolers will say anything less than $150 is "low cost." If I had a vested interest in making money off of air coolers, I'd say anything less than $150 air coolers would be low cost/low end too. If I was making money off of selling water, I'd say paying anything less than at least $1.00 for a bottle of water is "low end water."

Except for the inconvenient fact that a $30 Cooler Master Evo/212 or Scythe Mugen or a $50 CM V8 performs just as well as many $150+ air coolers out there. Or a $80 closed loop water cooling system performs better than many of those $150+ air cooling solutions.
Edited by Bluescreendeath - 8/19/16 at 5:18pm
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Originally Posted by bboiprfsr View Post

usually overclocking involves a bigger heatsink with several heatpipes for better heat dissipation. It's that, or using all-in-one closed liquid cooling. The fact you're using a HTPC probably implicates more movies and streaming, and thus the low demand for overclocking + heat output. Thus, i would recommend low-noise => cryorig's C7.

However, let's say you have a desktop mid-tower or full tower case with a budget of $90+. Then you will find exponential cooling down to 64C at the high end, under ideal conditions, such as a case with good airflow and space for the heatsink.

HTPC cases, on the the other hand, lack ventilation plus space. It's compact. It's not optimal for overclocking but rather streaming and movies or basic computer tasks.

Bottom line is that your case and budget limits your options of wanting to overclock (you want bigger physical dimensions for that in regards to air cooling).

That is a good point. What about the ID IS-40? It has direct contact heat pipes and looks pretty sleek.

The Cryorig C7 weighs 295g without the fan, and the IS-40 weighs 310g. So they have comparable mass in terms of heat absorbing & dissipating metals.
Edited by Bluescreendeath - 8/19/16 at 5:23pm
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Originally Posted by Bluescreendeath View Post


I'm not just going off of the manufacturer's own tdp rating. Hardwaresecrets did a review of the Cooler Master Vortex Plus with a Core2Extreme QX6850 (stock 130watt TDP), and overclocked it to 3.33Ghz (with additional voltage I presume).

The CM Vortex Plus reached 78'C at full load - this is at least 130watts, and probably more due to the overclock.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/cooler-master-vortex-plus-cpu-cooler-review/7/

TweakTown also did reviews of the Vertex Plus, and it also did pretty well. It performed better than the Arctic Cooling LP7 and Cooler Master TX2 by 4'C. The later two are rated for 95-100watts.

Max load: 61'C over room temp, comparable to the Noctura NH-C12P


The C1 costs $65 - that is more than twice my stated budget of $30. And of course a bunch of organizations who are involved in manufacturing air coolers will say anything less than $150 is "low cost." If I had a vested interest in making money off of air coolers, I'd say anything less than $150 air coolers would be low cost/low end too. If I was making money off of selling water, I'd say paying anything less than at least $1.00 for a bottle of water is "low end water."

Except for the inconvenient fact that a $30 Cooler Master Evo/212 or Scythe Mugen or a $50 CM V8 performs just as well as many $150+ air coolers out there. Or a $80 closed loop water cooling system performs better than many of those $150+ air cooling solutions.

If you're running a Core 2 in your rig those test results could be extrapolated. Not that relevant to Haswell overclocking. Smaller die size with a less evenly heated IHS is a different beast to cool. Only cooler tests performed on the same target platform can be used as a guide.

Tweaktown cooler reviews have just slightly more credibility than CM factory specs imo. Their methodology and results do not correlate well to other more rigorous review sites.

The Cooler Industry Organizations you were railing on are make-believe. I made them up! biggrin.gif

Sorry to burst your budget, but the reality is: Cool OC performance, Low Cost, Low Noise. Pick any 2.

Not here to argue - enjoy your CM pushpin OC'd limit.
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