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sure it helps living close to Tokyo but you get 200Mpbs with fiber or high speed ADSL more in countryside and as I said Tokyo olympics coming will boost the infrastructure further nationwide.no regret of having left France....

I dont blame you, for living its not too bad here. But Japan is Japan its something special. Most of Europe is so half ass backwards when it comes to technology its pretty ridiculous.
    
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ha ha was born there you know, happy to come back on holiday but no way returning for living, no way.

back to Australia topic, i visit the country for business every quarter since my APAC HQ is located there.
they are with Tesla and recently upgraded from 10/10 internet speed to 100/100(no joke) and if you knew how much they charge them compared to what are the ISP charges for the office I run here in Japan.....so its not only for individuals, the businesses are affected too obviously.
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Capitalism is literally in the name of crony capitalism but they are two different things? As far as I know private ownership of the means of production exists in both.

As long as other examples of non crony capitalism exist, yes there is a difference. Case in point, where I live a 300 Mbps with no data caps costs way less than a 20 Mbps connection in Australia. The main provider didn't push legislation to create high barriers for new players, it stayed at the top by offering better services, unlike ISPs in Australia and the U.S. where connections are a decade and a half behind the rest of the developed and even developing world.
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Capitalism is literally in the name of crony capitalism but they are two different things? As far as I know private ownership of the means of production exists in both.

It would actually be a duopoly or oligopoly. Controlling providers working together to basically fix pricing and avoid competing.
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As long as other examples of non crony capitalism exist, yes there is a difference. Case in point, where I live a 300 Mbps with no data caps costs way less than a 20 Mbps connection in Australia. The main provider didn't push legislation to create high barriers for new players, it stayed at the top by offering better services, unlike ISPs in Australia and the U.S. where connections are a decade and a half behind the rest of the developed and even developing world.

In reality the U.S. has some of the best and fastest infrastructure in the ground. Access to it is the real problem!
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I think some people misunderstood, the service itself is not seventeen times higher, the bandwidth cost to servers etc can be up to 17x higher.
I pay $99 for 100/40 fiber.. but I only get a 600GB/mth cap, that's quite a lot of money from a bandwidth standpoint, if we go into the mobile sector it gets a hell of a lot worse but I'm not getting into that for my own sanity.

Fact is, Telstra has been both the wholesaler of the majority of our infrastructure as well as leading retailer for about 20 years, controlling the market price and skimping on infrastructure maintenance and upgrades, while passing on the high remediation costs of outdated tech to consumers.

Even the government owned NBNco which in its conception was supposed to fix all of this has set consumer price of fiber similarly to Telstras ADSL pricing supposedly to "avoid killing competition". As a result we have no competition and people are paying through the roof even for the most basic services.

Then some of the comments from Americans in the source article, equating their PayTV+Net services to our Internet services is a little frustrating. Our high costs aren't including Pay TV.
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That should be illegal.
dont worry im paying $110 a month for 110/2.4 and when i move house i will be upgrading to 100/50 so im not looking forward to how much that will cost me
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dont worry im paying $110 a month for 110/2.4 and when i move house i will be upgrading to 100/50 so im not looking forward to how much that will cost me

Seriously? I'm paying $100 for 400GB data and ADSL 1 speeds 10/0.7 mad.gif
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Seriously? I'm paying $100 for 400GB data and ADSL 1 speeds 10/0.7 mad.gif
yea have been for the past 4years on cable and have 500gb a month.
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Seriously? I'm paying $100 for 400GB data and ADSL 1 speeds 10/0.7 mad.gif
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yea have been for the past 4years on cable and have 500gb a month.

If you move to Mildura, there's uncongested TransACT HFC, when I was there I paid $80/mth for 100/20 + 1TB cap, thing is, actual speeds were almost 300/100.
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europe and their neverending laws. Despite what people say about them (eh brexiters?) they have been of tremendous value. reminds me of this article about telecom companies wanting to weaken net neutrality to help "return on investment" with their "upcoming" 5g networks.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/10/12139700/telecom-companies-5g-service-european-union-net-neutrality

All broadband,mobile and landline communications are watched by ofcom which is not an eu body so i don't what you're talking about brexit for.

Just another salty remainer wink.gif
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