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Europe is so far behind in networking its pretty sad[...].

Asia is at the top at the moment but there are some European countries in the top 10.

http://www.techinsider.io/akami-global-internet-speeds-rankings-2015-9

Though I suppose that pure bandwidth doesn't tell the whole story. The internet censorship index is also needed to understand what one can do with said connection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_and_surveillance_by_country
Edited by Pentdragon - 8/21/16 at 12:49pm
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I think LTE is pretty unreliable, especially if you're far from the towers but it is what it is. Everything is more expensive in the netherlands especially electricity from what ive been told.

Europe is so far behind in networking its pretty sad haha. From what ive been told though is that France has had fiber laid out underground for YEARS but something happened between then and now.
Closest LTE tower is about 1 km away so it might be okay. It's really only in test phase and I have no idea what T-mobile is going to charge.
Also yes electricity is quite expensive which cost us a lot of manufacturing. (it moved to Germany) and it is bound to get more and more expensive. But hey we gotta fund unreliable non competitive forms of energy such as wind and solar with billions of tax dollars after all.

According to some water, water mixing (salt water with river water) and next gen nuclear energy plants are the devil. Even though these are better more viable green sources of energy.
We have very little height differences but we do have a lot of flow there is decent energy to be won there. We also have many rivers running into the sea and there is active research going on in how to harvest energy from the mixing of this riverwater with the seawater. Last but not least there are reactors being developed that could help us break down the nuclear waste we have. (a large part of it) While giving us enough energy to last a long time. Enough to get to newer tech all while solving this large sword of Damocles hanging over our heads.
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And I'm just sitting here in Auckland (NZ) on a 100mbit fiber link that costs me nothing because I work for the ISP.

Lucky lucky me tongue.gif
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I think LTE is pretty unreliable, especially if you're far from the towers but it is what it is. Everything is more expensive in the netherlands especially electricity from what ive been told.

Europe is so far behind in networking its pretty sad haha. From what ive been told though is that France has had fiber laid out underground for YEARS but something happened between then and now.

LTE is much more reliable than the copper here it seems.

When I moved house I used my phone's data tethered to my computer for a couple months, Much faster speeds especially uploads...and never once a drop out..

This house/last house/mates houses/etc get drop outs all the damn time.

If it wasn't for the $10 per gb mobile data price I would be using 3G
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I think LTE is pretty unreliable, especially if you're far from the towers but it is what it is. Everything is more expensive in the netherlands especially electricity from what ive been told.

Europe is so far behind in networking its pretty sad haha. From what ive been told though is that France has had fiber laid out underground for YEARS but something happened between then and now.

Depends in a few big citys around the uk their are 4G providers which are not actually that bad

Though the uk would be in better shape if we didn't have to go through all the red tape.
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Unregulated capitalism in its natural form.
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That's so far from unregulated it not even funny. That's just the governments letting corporations do what ever they want. Theoretically, corporations like these could not survive true capitalism in the modern age. Its why they fight so hard for legislation.
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That's so far from unregulated it not even funny. That's just the governments letting corporations do what ever they want. Theoretically, corporations like these could not survive true capitalism in the modern age. Its why they fight so hard for legislation.

Obviously its not the gilded age, but regulations and taxes have slowly been loosened over the years. Especially in America. Regulations have been slowly dismantled or simply not updated to keep up with modern financial institutions. Not to mention the existence of some archaic structures that get in the way of effective competition and consumer access. Like car dealerships for example...
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Obviously its not the gilded age, but regulations and taxes have slowly been loosened over the years. Especially in America. Regulations have been slowly dismantled or simply not updated to keep up with modern financial institutions. Not to mention the existence of some archaic structures that get in the way of effective competition and consumer access. Like car dealerships for example...

And that's the difference between cronyism and capitalism. Capitalism works but if you losen up the reigns, it turns into cronyism and cronyism is really, really, really bad as economic system,
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Oh dear, and to think I've had FTTH since like 2004... The basic package of 100/100 goes for 10€, 600/600 is 20€. And this is with one provider having the absolute majority of the market. To think I haven't upgraded my connection in 12 years is... pretty odd. Prices have dropped a bit though.
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