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Originally Posted by Pentdragon View Post

Asia is at the top at the moment but there are some European countries in the top 10.

http://www.techinsider.io/akami-global-internet-speeds-rankings-2015-9

That's a terrible source. Peak speeds say nothing for the average user. What matters is the average speed.
This is the current top ten:

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Source[page 12]
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Europe is so far behind in networking its pretty sad haha. From what ive been told though is that France has had fiber laid out underground for YEARS but something happened between then and now.

Not really. I live in Sweden. I pay $15 for 300/300 from my local ISP. Uncapped. I don't even live in a top 3 city.
You can get extremely cheap internet in a lot of European countries. France is actually not doing so well, which might color the fact that you spout a lot of negative BS. Move to a real country for real internet.
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That's a terrible source. Peak speeds say nothing for the average user. What matters is the average speed.
This is the current top ten:

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Source[page 12]
Not really. I live in Sweden. I pay $15 for 300/300 from my local ISP. Uncapped. I don't even live in a top 3 city.
You can get extremely cheap internet in a lot of European countries. France is actually not doing so well, which might color the fact that you spout a lot of negative BS. Move to a real country for real internet.

I guess you didn't read the whole thread being new and all.

In MOST europen countries the internet is ridiculously cheap, it also comes with phone/tv for that cheap. The issue is that again MOST european countries are still stuck on ADSL or VDSL. Sweden/Norway/Finland aren't considered part of Europe as far as most people are concerned. Thats like including Iceland/Greenland in the mix lol. Germany/Spain/Italy/Poland etc are also pretty damn far behind in internet infrastructure, people tend to forget these countries are very old and the cities don't get renovated every year.

The main issue isn't price but availability. Btw pretty sure the Scandinavian countries are top notch when it comes to internet services.
    
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That's a terrible source. Peak speeds say nothing for the average user. What matters is the average speed.

You literally used the same source, just a different metric. I also think average speed is a terrible unit of comparison as it severely disadvantages large nations, like say comparing China to Singapore, one being one of the largest in terms of land mass and population, the second being a city state that you can traverse in an hour. We're not going to live in villages and pretend it's a valid point to complain about having slower speeds compared to towns and cities where, statistically, most people live.

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.URB.TOTL.IN.ZS
Edited by Pentdragon - 8/22/16 at 3:45am
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Originally Posted by jagdtigger View Post

Assuming that every house is individually wired and tith DOCSIS 3.1 its hardly a bottleneck:
http://www.speedtest.net/articles/what-is-docsis/

/EDIT
Just checked my cable modem, it supports docsis 3.0 but it seems my ISP is lazy and they still using 2.0:
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I don't know about FTTN in Canada, but here in Australia we're using the old DSL copper lines to connect the node to homes.
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I don't know about FTTN in Canada, but here in Australia we're using the old DSL copper lines to connect the node to homes.
In my case they using the TV cable, we never had DSL... But i still have no idea why they using outdated technic when the cable modems they give support the newer one eh-smiley.gif . And BTW still no IPv6.
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I don't know about FTTN in Canada, but here in Australia we're using the old DSL copper lines to connect the node to homes.

Same in the uk we mostly either have FTTN and docsis with coax copper or FTTC with VDSL2 while our rj11/cat3 copper (phoneline) completes the connection.
Edited by kylzer - 8/22/16 at 9:07am
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And that's the difference between cronyism and capitalism. Capitalism works but if you losen up the reigns, it turns into cronyism and cronyism is really, really, really bad as economic system,

Which is what we have in pretty much all Asian economies. Just look at South Korea and the blatant corruption in that country... Yet their internet is just fine in Seoul. I'd move there if it made sense.
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Too bad to hear that. Lack of choices is stupidest things in the world, I mean lack of competition. We had problem of low internet speed back in the day just because only two large provider existed in area. When third came then everyone step their game up.
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Same in the uk we mostly either have FTTN and docsis with coax copper or FTTC with VDSL2 while our rj11/cat3 copper (phoneline) completes the connection.
I happen to have VDSL2 via a rj11 phoneline connection. It's good for 95/22 through my fritzbox4970 and it's a solid compromise given the situation over here. With that said, I'd be surprised if more than 10% of Aussie households have access to a VDSL2 connection like this... the vast majority are still adsl2 with a slowwww progression to the FTTN infrastructure
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I happen to have VDSL2 via a rj11 phoneline connection. It's good for 95/22 through my fritzbox4970 and it's a solid compromise given the situation over here. With that said, I'd be surprised if more than 10% of Aussie households have access to a VDSL2 connection like this... the vast majority are still adsl2 with a slowwww progression to the FTTN infrastructure

There's a lot of towns with sparsely populated streets here though, so even if they do get FTTN, the one cabinet on the street corner is going to have the same line distance issues as ADSL for a lot of people, and for anyone else they're still likely to have the same congestion problems. That's without getting into how worse for wear the copper lines are in so many areas.

I'm just glad I'm one of the lucky few with FTTP redface.gif
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