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We have more than enough GPU power now with the GTX 1080 and upcoming VEGA GPUs for even 4K 60 FPS.

I understand why someone would spend 1000$ on this monitor, but personally I wouldn't. I buy monitors to use them for long periods of time without feeling the need to upgrade, I had mine with the XL2730Z that I've had for a long time without feeling there's anything to upgrade to, a 100Hz monitor would be a downgrade, higher resolution and aspect ratio doesn't really cut it if it comes with compromises, if I must upgrade it had to be 144Hz at the very least.

Otherwise I wont feel like paying 1000$ for a sidegrade, it's time to move forward! I mean, I'm not even asking OLED here, and I should be asking OLED.
Yes, VAs are worse than IPS panels in this regard, this monitor doesn't really seem to be a compromise free upgrade at all, not for us people with already working 144Hz 1440p TNs or IPS monitors.

What GPU can run 4k 60 fps? And what software? A 1080 OC can't even run OW at 144hz 1080p, my 1070 can't run 60 fps stable on 1440p.
Edited by Jupitel - 8/30/16 at 7:43am
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Is VA better than IPS?  What's better about a VA panel? 

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Is VA better than IPS?  What's better about a VA panel? 

VA is way better, especially as you get to larger and larger screens. The more angle you have looking to the corners on screens the more noticeable IPS glow tends to be, and that IPS glow destroys any semblance of black levels. VA on the other hand has a minimum of 3x higher native contrast and it really shows, black levels are better than any other LCD panel type. Viewing angles are just as good as other panel types. The one drawback is VA panels tend to have slower response times, but as long as the panel can be made well enough it is fine. There are fast VA and slow VA panels, just like fast and slow IPS and TN. Whether this one is fast or not remains to be seen, it could be a rather slow panel with a TON of overdrive to get high rated numbers on a spec sheet, but really have terrible overshoot ghosting in real life. Wont know till TFT gets one in to test in the lab.
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VA is way better, especially as you get to larger and larger screens. The more angle you have looking to the corners on screens the more noticeable IPS glow tends to be, and that IPS glow destroys any semblance of black levels. VA on the other hand has a minimum of 3x higher native contrast and it really shows, black levels are better than any other LCD panel type. Viewing angles are just as good as other panel types. The one drawback is VA panels tend to have slower response times, but as long as the panel can be made well enough it is fine. There are fast VA and slow VA panels, just like fast and slow IPS and TN. Whether this one is fast or not remains to be seen, it could be a rather slow panel with a TON of overdrive to get high rated numbers on a spec sheet, but really have terrible overshoot ghosting in real life. Wont know till TFT gets one in to test in the lab.

Oh nice, well thanks for explaining it to me.  :cheers:

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TVs like that already exist, both in the VA and OLED flavor with HDR. Monitors are being milked to death with LCDs.
yeah, they're milking every pc gamers right now
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It is difficult to find a meaningful reason, why to this day there is no any 27/VA 1440p LCD monitors.
i don't get either, there should be more various size and res of va panels
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whoever makes a 30"+ 5040x2160 OLED gets my money...make it happen for 2017 biggrin.gif
     
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VA is way better, especially as you get to larger and larger screens. The more angle you have looking to the corners on screens the more noticeable IPS glow tends to be, and that IPS glow destroys any semblance of black levels. VA on the other hand has a minimum of 3x higher native contrast and it really shows, black levels are better than any other LCD panel type. Viewing angles are just as good as other panel types. The one drawback is VA panels tend to have slower response times, but as long as the panel can be made well enough it is fine. There are fast VA and slow VA panels, just like fast and slow IPS and TN. Whether this one is fast or not remains to be seen, it could be a rather slow panel with a TON of overdrive to get high rated numbers on a spec sheet, but really have terrible overshoot ghosting in real life. Wont know till TFT gets one in to test in the lab.
Not everyone is sensitive to IPS glow, though. Also, viewing angles are not as good as IPS, but they are far better than TN.
My take on it
VA Pros: best black levels, best contrast, good colour accuracy, good viewing angles. Cons: Slowest response times (Modern fast VA panels should be fast enough for most people though)
IPS Pros: Best colour accuracy, good response times, best viewing angles Cons: Black levels, contrast
TN Pros: Fast, cheap Cons: Everything else( A good TN panel can still have decent IQ, but viewing angles will be bad)

In the end, it's about compromise and which issue bothers you the most. Until OLED takes off, at which point all other tech will be obsoleted since OLED has none of those issues. It remains to be seen how successfully "burn in" gets tackled.
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Perfect, except I need it to be 38", and with HDR/10-bit panel. Please tell me that is coming, someone!
Edited by stargate125645 - 9/1/16 at 3:03pm
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Please tell me that is coming, someone!
That is coming!
    
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