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Those temps are actually very good if you are running 4.6GHz

This load you shouldn't see unless you are doing rendering or you do encoding,in games you shouldn't see those temps,but depends how game is threaded

67°C on PKG is quite good in my view,you can try switch between the thermsl pastes,I've tried like AS5 which has been OK,then ShinEtsu with which I've 2°C lower temps on PKG,PK-3 has been not best,no temperature drop at all,Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut with that my temps dropped by 5°C on PKG

Hope this helps

Thanks,Jura

Reapplying seemed to lower the temp a bit smile.gif. I only wish I chose a different motherboard capable of voltage control on my cpu fans and llc.
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Reapplying seemed to lower the temp a bit smile.gif. I only wish I chose a different motherboard capable of voltage control on my cpu fans and llc.

I see you are gained 1°C on PKG which is not a lot,but everything bit can help in whole picture,as I said,if you have there supplied Noctua thermal paste,I would give it try

At what RPM are you running fans,you should be able to control fans easily on yours motherboard,but depends on BIOS

LLC this can help there,but not so much,but that's depends on more factors,I don't use at all any LLC and I'm happy with that

But still great temps at 4.6GHz there

I would suspect at 4.7GHz you will be at low 70's which is still great temperature and 4.8GHz not sure,but I think you can be maybe touching 80°C

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Fans are running at 1300-1400rpm, bios are up to date but, I still can't control fan speed.
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I see you are gained 1°C on PKG which is not a lot,but everything bit can help in whole picture,as I said,if you have there supplied Noctua thermal paste,I would give it try

At what RPM are you running fans,you should be able to control fans easily on yours motherboard,but depends on BIOS

LLC this can help there,but not so much,but that's depends on more factors,I don't use at all any LLC and I'm happy with that

But still great temps at 4.6GHz there

I would suspect at 4.7GHz you will be at low 70's which is still great temperature and 4.8GHz not sure,but I think you can be maybe touching 80°C

Hope this helps

Thanks,Jura

Fans are running at 1300-1400rpm, bios are up to date and I still can't control fan speed. No longer have the supplied Noctua thermal paste and was thinking of replacing the noctua fans with pwm ones.
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Fans are running at 1300-1400rpm, bios are up to date but, I still can't control fan speed.
Fans are running at 1300-1400rpm, bios are up to date and I still can't control fan speed. No longer have the supplied Noctua thermal paste and was thinking of replacing the noctua fans with pwm ones.

Hi there

That's strange you can control fans,not sure on that,I've NH-D15 and I can control both of my fans

You can try to use supplied L.N.A or U.L.N.A cables with which you should lower RPM to 850-1200RPM,at 1200RPM those fans are louder,but still they're lot quieter than some Corsair fans and at 850RPM they're pretty quiet

Regarding better fans,have look on Phanteks or Thermalright fans which seems are best for money there

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Hi there

That's strange you can control fans,not sure on that,I've NH-D15 and I can control both of my fans

You can try to use supplied L.N.A or U.L.N.A cables with which you should lower RPM to 850-1200RPM,at 1200RPM those fans are louder,but still they're lot quieter than some Corsair fans and at 850RPM they're pretty quiet

Regarding better fans,have look on Phanteks or Thermalright fans which seems are best for money there

Hope this helps

Thanks,Jura

Thanks, will take a look into them.
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Reapplying seemed to lower the temp a bit smile.gif. I only wish I chose a different motherboard capable of voltage control on my cpu fans and llc.

Seems not that long ago we were complaining about the lack of proper PWM fan control on many motherboards. I'm shocked that MSI doesn't provide a voltage control method, either in the BIOS or in their COMMAND CENTER software. Have you tried all the options: Manual Mode and Smart Mode with the Fan Tune option?
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MSI Z170-A Pro is only one of several motherboards with only PWM control on CPU fan header.

If you are considering replacing the cooler fans, I would consider replacing the case fans with same fans as you get for cooler and set them up with a PWM fan hub like swiftech or Pyobia so both case and cooler fans are PWM controlled with PSU power. The stock FD GP14 fans just don't do a good job of moving much air.

Optimizing case airflow usually improves temps more, often several times more than better TIM. With TIM we have maybe 3 'metal' versions that are a couple degrees better, then about 30 TIMs all within 2-3c of each other.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1491876/ways-to-better-cooling-airflow-cooler-fan-data/0_20#post_22646705

If your cooler intake air temp is 11-20c above room temp (most are if not tuned up) and you lower that by 6-18c to 3-5c above room temp your CPU and GPU will also be 6-16c cooler .. compared to 1-5c with expensive TIM. I lower cooler intake air temps, make sure I get a good TIM print and don't worry about how great the TIM is.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1491876/ways-to-better-cooling-airflow-cooler-fan-data/0_20#post_22319249

Only down side is GPU airflow is now cycling in sync with GPU demands. There are adapters for GPU PWM to normal PWM and with a PSU powered splitter you can have case fans synced to GPU fans too. wink.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/1491876/ways-to-better-cooling-airflow-cooler-fan-data/0_20#post_22319246
Edited by doyll - 9/4/16 at 1:32am
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MSI Z170-A Pro is only one of several motherboards with only PWM control on CPU fan header.

Really? Wow! While I prefer PWM, that's a step backwards in flexibility - DIY is all about choices - even bad ones are better than none at all. biggrin.gif

So the quick solution could be the Phanteks PWM Hub that can control 3pin fans from a PWM source.
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Really? Wow! While I prefer PWM, that's a step backwards in flexibility - DIY is all about choices - even bad ones are better than none at all. biggrin.gif

So the quick solution could be the Phanteks PWM Hub that can control 3pin fans from a PWM source.
I know a guy who makes much better PWM to variable voltage adapters than the Phanteks. His are manually adjustable so we can setup rpm curve to match.


Usually setup for 3-4 fans and sometimes with PSU power. While not pretty, they are very nice bits of kit .. and in over 4 years of making them has had almost no problems .. which is impressive for an R&D product.
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I know a guy who makes much better PWM to variable voltage adapters than the Phanteks. His are manually adjustable so we can setup rpm curve to match.


Usually setup for 3-4 fans and sometimes with PSU power. While not pretty, they are very nice bits of kit .. and in over 4 years of making them has had almost no problems .. which is impressive for an R&D product.

Oh...fancy! Does he work out of a white breadboard van? wink.gif

Don't tell me, let me guess...he doesn't ship to the colonies...tongue.gif
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