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Is this a bottleneck? AM1 5350, 8800GT beats 750Ti 3DMark06

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BF4 stutters with the 750Ti but not with the 8800GT med settings,both get around 30 fps but the 750Ti just stutters every 10 seconds or so.

And this is with my sig rig named "Budget Gaming Rig" with a 5350.

Also the 8800GT did better in 3DMark06, i dont understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wheee.gif



8800GT


750Ti



EDIT:

I FIXED THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So i ordered a 560Ti thinking it would be the sweet spot but it performed just as badly as the 750Ti. I had noticed my CPU idle was around 35-40% but i chalked it up to it being that high because the AM1 just isnt that good and needed to work twice as hard as my Q9650 under idle.

I decided to uninstall the 3D Vision and Vision controller drivers along with Geforce Experience. Now my idle is around 3-7%.

Improvements:

Higher 3DMark06 score (With the 560Ti) If i used my 750Ti im sure it would be even higher. But you can see here that it infact fixed the issues i was having because now the 560Ti beats the 750Ti in my tests, keep in mind the 750Ti results above are BEFORE i uninstalled the the things.



And also BF4 stuttering stopped rolleyes.gif With the 560Ti and 750Ti before the fix i was getting the same fps, around 22-30 on all LOW settings with bad stuttering every 10 seconds. Now after i get around 35-45 on all high settings with the 560Ti no stuttering!

I'm glad i finally fixed the issue i knew something wasnt right, even all of my other games run 50% better now, a truly night and day difference.

And here are some pics of the 560Ti i got, i put the 750Ti back in my main Sig Rig.





Edited by Bearded Gamer - 8/27/16 at 9:56pm
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As you can see cpu load is max and gpu usage only gets as high as 31%.

I know the 750Ti is fine because with my other rig with a Q9650 @ 3.6Ghz BF4 gets 45-50 at Ultra settings.

Maybe the AM1 mobo isnt feeding the gpu enough power through the pcie slot?

Or just a suck cpu? Aka 5350...




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Just tried Tomb Raider 2013 and NFS Rivals and theres virtually no difference in fps from the 8800GT to the 750Ti.
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Yeah those AM1 chips are no good for gaming. Those FM2+ Athlons are a much better choice.

Not much you can do. Just seems the 8800gt does better with a weaker CPU, as it is not being held back as much.

A Q9650 is leagues faster than that AM1 chip.


I still am using one of those in my gaming HTPC with a 7950. With 8GB of RAM the system still plays anything on the market.
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Thanks i just put the 8800GT back in and BF4 stopped freezing every 10 seconds for 1 second. Even Skyrim went from 32 fps with the 750Ti to 38 with the 8800GT, i really just don't understand.

I ordered a Zotac 560Ti 1GB OC for $69.99 free shipping on eBay, supposedly *New* I think it will be the sweet spot for the AM1 5350.

Also soon i will be ordering the 5370 @ 2.2Ghz just to get my max potential in games.
Edited by Bearded Gamer - 8/27/16 at 10:04pm
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EDIT:

I FIXED THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Uninstalled the 3D Vision drivers and Geforce Experience.

So i ordered a 560Ti thinking it would be the sweet spot but it performed just as badly as the 750Ti. I had noticed my CPU idle was around 35-40% but i chalked it up to it being that high because the AM1 just isnt that good and needed to work twice as hard as my Q9650 under idle.

I decided to uninstall the 3D Vision and Vision controller drivers along with Geforce Experience. Now my idle is around 3-7%.

Improvements:

Higher 3DMark06 score (With the 560Ti) If i used my 750Ti im sure it would be even higher. But you can see here that it infact fixed the issues i was having because now the 560Ti beats the 750Ti in my tests, keep in mind the 750Ti results above are BEFORE i uninstalled the the things.






And also BF4 stuttering stopped rolleyes.gif With the 560Ti and 750Ti before the fix i was getting the same fps, around 22-30 on all LOW settings with bad stuttering every 10 seconds. Now after i get around 35-45 on all high settings with the 560Ti no stuttering!

I'm glad i finally fixed the issue i knew something wasnt right, even all of my other games run 50% better now, a truly night and day difference.

And here are some pics of the 560Ti i got, i put the 750Ti back in my main Sig Rig.








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Amd Athlon 5350 @ 2.1GHZ 1.3v Ecs KAM1-l Mini-ITX Evga Gtx 750Ti 2GB (1330MHZ Core / 6000MHZ Mem) 8GB DDR3 PC-1600 (1x8GB) Crucial Ballistix Sport 
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500GB Seagate Sata 7200RPM 32MB Cache  Lg Sata Dvd-Rw  Arctic Alpine M1 Win 10 Pro 64 Bit 
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Phillips 52 Inch Flatscreen Evga 430W Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini-ITX Realtek HD 
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NFS Rivals went from 22 fps all low settings to NEVER dipping below 30 fps on all ULTRA settings. I now love this little rig...
i7 Gaming Rig
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C2Q Gaming Rig
(12 items)
 
AM1 Gaming Rig
(12 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-2600 @ 3.4GHZ (Turbo 3.8GHZ) Asus P8H61-M LX2 Evga Gtx 1060 6GB (1700MHZ Core / 9000MHZ Mem) 16GB DDR3 PC-1600 (2x8GB) Crucial Ballistix Sport  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
2TB WD Sata 7200RPM 64MB Cache Lg Sata Dvd-Rw Cooler Master Hyper T4 Win 10 Pro 64 Bit 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
LG 24M47H-P 24 Inch (1080P) Evga 500W  Cooler Master N200 Creative SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio 7.1 Channel PCI-E 1x 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel C2Q Q9650 @ 4GHZ 1.225v Asus P5Q-E Msi Gtx 960 2GB (1300MHZ Core / 8000MHZ Mem)  8GB DDR2 PC-6400 (4x2GB) Kingston  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
x2 500GB Seagate Sata 7200RPM 32MB Cache  Lg Sata Dvd-Rw Arctic Freezer 7 Rev. 2 Win 10 Pro 64 Bit 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
Acer G185H 19 Inch Thermaltake TR2 RX-550W Cooler Master Elite 334 Nvidia Edition Creative SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio 7.1 Channel PCI-E 1x 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Amd Athlon 5350 @ 2.1GHZ 1.3v Ecs KAM1-l Mini-ITX Evga Gtx 750Ti 2GB (1330MHZ Core / 6000MHZ Mem) 8GB DDR3 PC-1600 (1x8GB) Crucial Ballistix Sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
500GB Seagate Sata 7200RPM 32MB Cache  Lg Sata Dvd-Rw  Arctic Alpine M1 Win 10 Pro 64 Bit 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
Phillips 52 Inch Flatscreen Evga 430W Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini-ITX Realtek HD 
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i7 Gaming Rig
(12 items)
 
C2Q Gaming Rig
(12 items)
 
AM1 Gaming Rig
(12 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-2600 @ 3.4GHZ (Turbo 3.8GHZ) Asus P8H61-M LX2 Evga Gtx 1060 6GB (1700MHZ Core / 9000MHZ Mem) 16GB DDR3 PC-1600 (2x8GB) Crucial Ballistix Sport  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
2TB WD Sata 7200RPM 64MB Cache Lg Sata Dvd-Rw Cooler Master Hyper T4 Win 10 Pro 64 Bit 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
LG 24M47H-P 24 Inch (1080P) Evga 500W  Cooler Master N200 Creative SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio 7.1 Channel PCI-E 1x 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel C2Q Q9650 @ 4GHZ 1.225v Asus P5Q-E Msi Gtx 960 2GB (1300MHZ Core / 8000MHZ Mem)  8GB DDR2 PC-6400 (4x2GB) Kingston  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
x2 500GB Seagate Sata 7200RPM 32MB Cache  Lg Sata Dvd-Rw Arctic Freezer 7 Rev. 2 Win 10 Pro 64 Bit 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
Acer G185H 19 Inch Thermaltake TR2 RX-550W Cooler Master Elite 334 Nvidia Edition Creative SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio 7.1 Channel PCI-E 1x 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Amd Athlon 5350 @ 2.1GHZ 1.3v Ecs KAM1-l Mini-ITX Evga Gtx 750Ti 2GB (1330MHZ Core / 6000MHZ Mem) 8GB DDR3 PC-1600 (1x8GB) Crucial Ballistix Sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
500GB Seagate Sata 7200RPM 32MB Cache  Lg Sata Dvd-Rw  Arctic Alpine M1 Win 10 Pro 64 Bit 
MonitorPowerCaseAudio
Phillips 52 Inch Flatscreen Evga 430W Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini-ITX Realtek HD 
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