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AMD's memory controller sucks and they always use the cheaper VRAMs.

My 7970 could do 1900MHz in RAM before it was a thing. That was 4.5 years ago.
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So HBM will never really become mainstream? GTX1080 10Gbps G5X, 1180 12-14Gbps G5X, 1280 14-16Gbps G6.

What sort of rates is HBM capable of?
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So HBM will never really become mainstream? GTX1080 10Gbps G5X, 1180 12-14Gbps G5X, 1280 14-16Gbps G6.

What sort of rates is HBM capable of?

http://www.overclock.net/t/1609577/ars-hbm3-cheaper-up-to-64gb-on-package-and-terabytes-per-second-bandwidth/0_20

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That's HBM3. Isn't HBM2 not seeing much adoption? Shouldn't that be the comparison? I'm confused.
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What sort of rates is HBM capable of?

Fury X - 512Gb/s, GP100 - 768Gb/s.
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Okay...so is it just price keeping HBM2 out of the GP104 line of cards? How much would the benefit be to switching to it?
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Okay...so is it just price keeping HBM2 out of the GP104 line of cards? How much would the benefit be to switching to it?

lower power consumption & simpler/smaller PCB, you could get a 1080 into a SFF case like the R9 Nano did without designing/manufacturing an expensive PCB(like the single fan 1070 Gigabyte released a few month ago).
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HBM is huge. You can even have it on a APU for crazy performance.
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HBM is huge. You can even have it on a APU for crazy performance.

Outside of APUs, HBM seems unnecessary in consumer GPUs at this point?
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Outside of APUs, HBM seems unnecessary in consumer GPUs at this point?

Well if you look at it from all angles it's not a deal breaker for consumer GPUs. Like many have said it uses less power, smaller PCB. The thing I like about smaller PCB is less copper for WB which hopefully keeps cost down. Speed is also important. Nvidia might not need HBM2 right now bt AMD does since they lack a bit in that factor.
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