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post #131 of 192
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Originally Posted by SMario View Post

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Buy the mouse and test it . Thats pretty much the only way to figure it out . Could be that anyones recommendation , review or thoughts on this or any mouse isn't the case for you at all .
post #132 of 192
from a technical point of view the mastermouse is a bit better:
aviors 3310 vs mastermouse's 3360 -> mastermouse

Build quality was superb on all mionix products i had/have vs little "flaws" on mastermouse; nothing that cannot be fixed though...
-> avior

Clicks are stiffer on the mastermouse ( especially with the longer palm cover) vs softer mionix clicks. Pure preference imho
-> personal preference

wheel is better on the master mouse imo. The aviors wheel is still ok
-> mastermouse

Clickl latency is a tad higher on mionix mice. Still not noticable to most I guess...
-> mastermouse

coatings are also completely different.Mionix have a very matte and almost rubberish coating; while the moustermouse a a more slik and smooth UV coating
->personal preference

weight was about the same I guess



Objectively i would pick the mastermouse, although if your personal preferences are more towards the avior, why not take the avior. Or just order both and send one back.
post #133 of 192
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Originally Posted by unplayed namer View Post

got mine today!
my first thoughts/tests:

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Shape: the swapable side/top covers are a great thing for people that have no real clue; However I just attached the palm covers.
They fit in really exact all fine.
And I really love the shape. feels like a sensei/ dm1/ nixeus revel with a bit more space on the side, which fits my style way more than the above!

Cord: braided; rather thin and medium stiffness. It is ok. I guess a great cable if debraided ( gonna do that later)

Glides: Not really great. had to pick up a faster mousepad than I am used to, as the glide is rather high friction; One mglide was slightly glued off-place. Had to fix this....

Clicks: on the stiffer end, but they provide a really great experience so far. Really love the clicks. The only clicks I prefer to thisa are g900/ g303.

Side buttons: the click of the side buttons feels good as well. The buttons are quite far up, so you won't touch them accidentely.

Wheel: clear steps, but easy to move. Also the position is quite far to the front, which is my preference. great wheel!

Weight: below 100 gramms. Did not put it on a scale, so I have to trust CM with their 98 gramms, and I do trust them as it feels even lighter to me tbh.
This I guess is due to the -> Coating

Coating: Now this is something special about this mouse. It looks and feels different to what I have used before. And I have gone from dislking to absolutely loving it in about 2 hours.
The initial dislike came from making my hands sweat. I rarely have sweaty hands, but this mouse gives me sweaty hands. Now why do I still like it? I just dry my hands and the grip after feels super sticky and the mouse feels really light. The downside is I have to do that every 30 mins - 1 hour -.-

Lens ratlle: tested this after I saw that my dm1 pro also "suffers" from this -.- ( >2000 dpi first world flaw)
But the CM Master Mouse does not suffer from this.( tested on 12.000 dpi)

driver: looks rather ugly, but you can configure literraly everything one would want and not want to including, but not limited to:

-CPI and key assignment / profiles with a library for profiles
-countles LED "functions"
- surface callibration ( stock is fine)
- AND: button respond time! It is listed as a "OS Sensitivity" feature so I am a little unsure if this really does what I want; -> set it to lowest still.
- Polling rate
- macros
- and much more useles stuff

Sensor: purr-fect. PMW 3360 nothing more to say; did not find a flaw yet.

General Build Quality:
From the outside: Superb. Only tiny flaw was that mouse foot being a tiny bit out of place on my unit
Inside: did not open it ( yet)

Other stuff: It is true ambi with buttons on both sides and claw/ palm or hybrid grip. This makes it a top recommendation to lefties as well as righties people and to people who swap grip often.
Only thing I could see some people dislking is the coating, although it is one thing that makes ME personally really like thius mouse.

Not sure if I should cancel my G-Pro preorder now ......

Conclusion:
This is really a great perfroming mouse and I really liked it when going in-game. I get a super grip on it, it is light and has a top sensor.


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Originally Posted by frunction View Post

Finally got mine.

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The shape is really good, probably one of the best mouse shapes I've held. Feels really solid for a modular, light design.

As manpearpig indicated though, the clicks with the larger shell are ridiculously stiff. Usable, but would be fatigue inducing (and this is from a mainly Zowie user). With the smaller shell the buttons are fine, and the side buttons aren't in the way. Since I want to use the bigger shell, this is no good for me.

Also, as unplayed namer says above, the glide is bad. When I use it I can feel plastic scraping. Not sure what is causing it, but it's unusable to me. I checked and I cannot see that it has plastic covering the feet like some mice come with. If someone finds feet covers please post here and I may keep the mouse.


So after 10 minutes it's back in the box. I could probably use the smaller shell or sand the big shell and come up with something for the feet, but I have enough mice sitting here and a G Pro on preorder, so it doesn't seem worth the time.



BTW, does anyone have an email or something for Cooler Master RMA? They don't answer the phone and don't publish an email on the site I can find.


Thank you both for your thoughts. Really appreciate it, as we have a lot of mice coming out to choose from and feed back really helps. thumb.gif
     
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post #134 of 192
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Originally Posted by unplayed namer View Post

from a technical point of view the mastermouse is a bit better:
aviors 3310 vs mastermouse's 3360 -> mastermouse

Build quality was superb on all mionix products i had/have vs little "flaws" on mastermouse; nothing that cannot be fixed though...
-> avior

Clicks are stiffer on the mastermouse ( especially with the longer palm cover) vs softer mionix clicks. Pure preference imho
-> personal preference

wheel is better on the master mouse imo. The aviors wheel is still ok
-> mastermouse

Clickl latency is a tad higher on mionix mice. Still not noticable to most I guess...
-> mastermouse

coatings are also completely different.Mionix have a very matte and almost rubberish coating; while the moustermouse a a more slik and smooth UV coating
->personal preference

weight was about the same I guess



Objectively i would pick the mastermouse, although if your personal preferences are more towards the avior, why not take the avior. Or just order both and send one back.

Thank you have been very clear
post #135 of 192
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Originally Posted by CorruptBE View Post

Godmode bug:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQL2m2zVzbI

That looks more like the everyday issue in BF4 with player animations not being synced to the player model. Especially if the player fail vaulted that railing when he got up from being prone.
post #136 of 192
No response from Cooler Master support in a week after opening a ticket. Seems like a great company.
post #137 of 192
Thread Starter 
They basically removed the mouse from every store it was available at so maybe the issues you guys have aren't just bad luck.

I still hope this mouse turns out to be good as Cooler Master is one of the few remaining companies that make mice with good middle buttons, and with the 336x going public, it no longer needs to be a compromise in sensor performance.
post #138 of 192
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Originally Posted by Koen3d View Post

They basically removed the mouse from every store

Way to go . Apart from the sensor and shape this mouse has absolutely nothing to offer and even the sensor didn't felt that great to me for somehow .

Anyway , after i recieved my second mastermousepro since the first one was broken from the factory i could finally do some proper testing . I felt the buttons on the broken unit with the small top cover where pretty good , i actually really liked them . On the intact unit however the buttons became the first reason which makes this mouse unusable . If you think zowie´s FK series has stiff clicks try the mastermouse pro , it's ridicolous , even with the small top cover which has a slightly lighter click , still not light at all . The next thing which is absolutely atrocious are the mousefeet . Who is designing trash like that ? The mouse has by far the worst glide i have ever witnessed . You basically have 0 glide because the feet are way to small and most important way to thin and basically the chassis of the mouse is scratching all the time . You could get around that with mounting some hyperglides from the FK / EC series on it but still ..... I have never seen worse clicks and feet like the mastermouse has . Cable is another downside , way to stiff but this wouldn't bother me since it would be swapped against a paracord anyway . Just as the recently released abyssus v2 another mouse with a shape which definitely got potential but it got ducked up horribly by weak development . I wonder who is testplaying this and what they are like !? "This mouse doesn't glide at all , feels really great" . "The switches are so hard that sometimes clicks don't even get through when tapping with pistols in cs go , i really like that" .

TLDR : Should be renamed to Disastermouse Pro , at least the state she is in currently . Shape got potential , now it's up to coolermaster to fix it , which i can't see happening , unfortunately .
post #139 of 192
TBH, I have a feeling the factory makes the first one and it has much better tolerances than when they start the actual run so the company gets the first few from the factor and says "Yeah, this seems fine." Then once the run starts they somehow aren't as careful and the tolerances get looser and everything goes to hell.
post #140 of 192
I emailed support and they said they're aiming to relaunch it in November and that it "has been modified to improve the mouse." Let's hope for the best! =D
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