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post #71 of 192
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It is not that small if you have the 130 cm shell cover on.
The stiff click however are a factor, its just what you would prefer I guess.

I'm still waiting for mine


What do the clicks compare to of the mice you've had? I prefer a bit softer than FK1/FK2, but not so soft like a DA/G303.
post #72 of 192
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I honestly dont get why people even bother about click latency, I mean it WONT improve your gameplay and subjectively speaking there is 0 difference between one mice and the other.
Most people would not know/care about the click latency if they did not get told that one is slower than the other, at this point people are just searching for things to blame their gameplay on.

https://clips.twitch.tv/stewie2k/CuriousGuanacoTTours

This is why button "latency" matters.
post #73 of 192
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I'm still waiting for mine


What do the clicks compare to of the mice you've had? I prefer a bit softer than FK1/FK2, but not so soft like a DA/G303.

Well it is a stiff click, it might be the same as the FK1/2 but I cannot confirm as it has been some time, but it is for sure stiffer than the DA/G303.
I would also like to point out that the stiffness is less with the shorter shell than with the longer shell.
post #74 of 192
I am intrigued by this mouse. The shape looks decent. I could remove a bunch of weight off the mouse like I did with my FK. This mouse could replace my FK if doesn't have any issues.

If the button are too stiff you can sand the area that bends. With this mouse it's less of an issue if you can buy replacement parts from CM. Obviously it would have been better to have a separate button piece. but in this case it was done for the ease of replacing the pieces.

It looks like the sides stick out too much even with the side pieces removed. Then there is the gap where the indicator LEDs are.

It would have been cool if you could remove the side buttons and replace the sides with a piece that covered the hole. I guess you could 3d print a piece that covers the side button hole and the LEDs.
Edited by popups - 8/31/16 at 3:17pm
post #75 of 192
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https://clips.twitch.tv/
This is why button "latency" matters.

I HIGHLY doubt that he missed because of the click latency, he either missed or the peekers advantage on the enemy's side helped them out.
post #76 of 192
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I HIGHLY doubt that he missed because of the click latency, he either missed or the peekers advantage on the enemy's side helped them out.

He missed because he didn't press the button at the right time.

Buttons "latency" will change when you should press the button during a flick. You have to learn when to press the button for each different mouse. There is dramatic difference when using a WMO then a G100s. This isn't just solely about debounce times, button actuation comes into play also.
post #77 of 192
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He missed because he didn't press the button at the right time.

Buttons "latency" will change when you should press the button during a flick. You have to learn when to press the button for each different mouse. There is dramatic difference when using a WMO then a G100s. This isn't just solely about debounce times, button actuation comes into play also.

I have used over 15 mice in the last couple months ranging from the old fk to the wmo to the g900 and I can subjectively say that I noticed 0 difference between the mice.
There might technically be a difference but it is not noticable/relevant in the real world.
Rank in csgo is global so its not like "im too bad too even notice it anyway"

Also, there was a high level osu! player that uses the g400s and uses mouse only.
post #78 of 192
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I have used over 15 mice in the last couple months ranging from the old fk to the wmo to the g900 and I can subjectively say that I noticed 0 difference between the mice.
There might technically be a difference but it is not noticable/relevant in the real world.
Rank in csgo is global so its not like "im too bad too even notice it anyway"

Also, there was a high level osu! player that uses the g400s and uses mouse only.

You not being able to notice click latency doesn't mean other people cannot.

I can play Osu! with an old FK without a problem, but I cannot play CS:GO with an old FK because I will not be able to AWP correctly and that is my main role when I play CS:GO, I can easily notice the click latency when AWPing because I can consistently hit shots in specific places with the Kinzu v1 or G100s that I cannot hit with the FK. I will click when I see them and still miss them, even when tracking them for a short period of time.
    
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post #79 of 192
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https://clips.twitch.tv/stewie2k/CuriousGuanacoTTours

This is why button "latency" matters.
It's not like the G Pro is 20ms slower than older Logi stuff or something, it's like 4ms. If the G Pro's latency is an issue then we might as well throw 99% of mice into the trash.
Edited by a_ak57 - 8/31/16 at 3:43pm
post #80 of 192
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It's not like the G Pro is 20ms slower than older Logi stuff or something, it's like 4ms. If the G Pro's latency is an issue then we might as well throw 99% of mice into the trash.

Yeah this probably isn't going to be a big deal at all, I had no problem using the Revel which is 1.9ms slower than the G303 after +4ms, but older FKs were borderline unusable when AWPing.
    
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