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Everything in my new system, except the RAM, has arrived.
This has given me time to consider, and a silly question has arisen.


Are the colors on a Trident Z purely cosmetic?



It was my intention to purchase:
4 x 8G G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 3200C14 (F4-3200C14Q-32GTZ) - Red highlight on Gray


On the G.Skill website, I see a slight variation - (F4-3200C14Q-32GTZSW) - White highlight on Gray
Furthermore, I see other colors (Red, Black and White highlights on Gray. White, Yellow and Orange highlights on Black).




In my region, there is a distinct lack of computer stores. Instead, we have online merchants and bazaar-like buildings with numerous middle men. All of whom sell lower end products.
Information is minimal, and the online merchants seem to have identical pictures and text.
Finding a suitable (and available) high end model is proving to be quite challenging.

I would appreciate any insight.
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Cheers.

As for memory color, I highly recommend blue for lower temps and red for more overclockability. It's also ver important you do NOT buy green modules: these are eco-modules and run slower than normal ones.

All jokes aside, yes the color is purely cosmetic. Order what suits your colour scheme.
 
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Aha!
Upon comparing the specifications of these two models on the G.Skill website, I seems that the only difference between them is that the model with red is dual channel and the model with white is quad channel.

I now wonder what other minute technical variations the colors might (or might not) indicate.
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Originally Posted by tbarmike View Post

Aha!
Upon comparing the specifications of these two models on the G.Skill website, I seems that the only difference between them is that the model with red is dual channel and the model with white is quad channel.

I now wonder what other minute technical variations the colors might (or might not) indicate.

That doesn't make a difference. Every DIMM is "single channel". Depending on the CPU, your system can access multiple DIMMs at the same time (4 DIMMs at the same time for LGA2011-X & 2 DIMMs for LGA115X for example).
You make pair 2 "dual channel 2-DIMM" kits and you can use it as a quad channel kit. The only thing that matters is that you run the optimal DIMM configuration for your use (more DIMMs = more stain on the IMC, higher density DIMMs = lower overclockability although this is a general trend, it's not always the case)
 
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Originally Posted by xioros View Post

That doesn't make a difference. Every DIMM is "single channel". Depending on the CPU, your system can access multiple DIMMs at the same time (4 DIMMs at the same time for LGA2011-X & 2 DIMMs for LGA115X for example).
You make pair 2 "dual channel 2-DIMM" kits and you can use it as a quad channel kit. The only thing that matters is that you run the optimal DIMM configuration for your use (more DIMMs = more stain on the IMC, higher density DIMMs = lower overclockability although this is a general trend, it's not always the case)

Thank you for your answer.


I'm still trying to wrap my head around this.
Specifically, I fail to see how these two models differ.

Both have 4 DIMMs with the same density (8G).
Am I to understand that more channels has greater bandwith, but makes the memory controller work harder?
If so, does that possibly limit how high an overclock can be pushed?


In my case, I have an LGA2011-v3 with an i7-6850K.
between these two models mentioned, which would be preferable for my system?
(or would it be a completely arbitrary choice?)

- ASUS ROG Rampage V Edition 10 (Couldn't resist - huge upgrade from my old system biggrin.gif)
- Intel i7-6850K
- MSI GeForce GTX 1080
- Other bits and pieces mentioned in my sig rig
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Definitely get the quad channel kit.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tbarmike View Post

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Originally Posted by xioros View Post

That doesn't make a difference. Every DIMM is "single channel". Depending on the CPU, your system can access multiple DIMMs at the same time (4 DIMMs at the same time for LGA2011-X & 2 DIMMs for LGA115X for example).
You make pair 2 "dual channel 2-DIMM" kits and you can use it as a quad channel kit. The only thing that matters is that you run the optimal DIMM configuration for your use (more DIMMs = more stain on the IMC, higher density DIMMs = lower overclockability although this is a general trend, it's not always the case)

Thank you for your answer.


I'm still trying to wrap my head around this.
Specifically, I fail to see how these two models differ.

Both have 4 DIMMs with the same density (8G).
Am I to understand that more channels has greater bandwith, but makes the memory controller work harder?
If so, does that possibly limit how high an overclock can be pushed?


In my case, I have an LGA2011-v3 with an i7-6850K.
between these two models mentioned, which would be preferable for my system?
(or would it be a completely arbitrary choice?)

- ASUS ROG Rampage V Edition 10 (Couldn't resist - huge upgrade from my old system biggrin.gif)
- Intel i7-6850K
- MSI GeForce GTX 1080
- Other bits and pieces mentioned in my sig rig
(I intend to play games, run VMs, and lightly overclock).

The models aren't different, aside from the colour. While G.Skill states that one kit is dual and the other quad, this is basically the same as saying: this car can drive forward and this car can also drive forward. There is 0 difference in the actual technology or DIMM. The only difference there could be, is possible JDEC and XMP profiles - something you shouldn't be too worried about because you can set the settings yourself if needed. Pick the colour like like most.

As for IMC load:
Always use at least every channel: 2 DIMMs in the correct slots for dual channel, 4 DIMMs in the correct slots for quad channel. Many motherboards offer 2 DIMM-slots per channel (4 slots on LGA115X & 8 on LGA2011-X) because it allows for a greater total RAM-size. But, putting 2 DIMMs on the same channel, puts more load on the IMC.
When you're running stock and running 'official specs' on memory (aka: 2133MHz on LGA2011-3 rolleyes.gif), this rarely ever poses issues. When you're overclocking, or running very high memory speeds, the IMC might be unable to properly run with all the 8 slots occupied, resulting in instability and crashes.
By using high-density memory (eg: 4x8GB instead of 8x4GB), you can fit the same amount of RAM in fewer slots, lowering the load on the IMC. It should be noted that higher density (more GB/stick) often results in less OC potential - although this is rarely (if ever more of a bottleneck compared to running all slots occupied. Running low density sticks is mostly important for extreme OC-ing with LN2.

Considering you're running rather high speeds (3200MHz), I would recommend sticking with 4 DIMMs if possible. Odds are small you'll ever need more than 32GB anyway.
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Definitely get the quad channel kit.

This is irrelevant.
 
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Cheers.

As for memory color, I highly recommend blue for lower temps and red for more overclockability. It's also ver important you do NOT buy green modules: these are eco-modules and run slower than normal ones.
The higher rated dimms are actually only sold as red.
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The models aren't different, aside from the colour. While G.Skill states that one kit is dual and the other quad, this is basically the same as saying: this car can drive forward and this car can also drive forward. There is 0 difference in the actual technology or DIMM. The only difference there could be, is possible JDEC and XMP profiles - something you shouldn't be too worried about because you can set the settings yourself if needed. Pick the colour like like most.

As for IMC load:
Always use at least every channel: 2 DIMMs in the correct slots for dual channel, 4 DIMMs in the correct slots for quad channel. Many motherboards offer 2 DIMM-slots per channel (4 slots on LGA115X & 8 on LGA2011-X) because it allows for a greater total RAM-size. But, putting 2 DIMMs on the same channel, puts more load on the IMC.
When you're running stock and running 'official specs' on memory (aka: 2133MHz on LGA2011-3 rolleyes.gif), this rarely ever poses issues. When you're overclocking, or running very high memory speeds, the IMC might be unable to properly run with all the 8 slots occupied, resulting in instability and crashes.
By using high-density memory (eg: 4x8GB instead of 8x4GB), you can fit the same amount of RAM in fewer slots, lowering the load on the IMC. It should be noted that higher density (more GB/stick) often results in less OC potential - although this is rarely (if ever more of a bottleneck compared to running all slots occupied. Running low density sticks is mostly important for extreme OC-ing with LN2.

Considering you're running rather high speeds (3200MHz), I would recommend sticking with 4 DIMMs if possible. Odds are small you'll ever need more than 32GB anyway.


Excellent answer

Thank you so much for your detailed explanation.

(I even appreciate your car analogy) biggrin.gif
Here's mine - I was worried that buying RAM based on color was like choosing a car because it was red.
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