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[AT] Unpacking AMD's Zen Benchmark: Is Zen actually 2% Faster than Broadwell

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At a satellite event to Intel's Developer Conference last week, AMD held an evening soiree with invited analysts and press to talk about their new upcoming Zen microarchitecture. This was intended to be a preview of tomorrow's Hot Chips presentation, and we've already covered the juicier parts of the presentation in terms of microarchitecture announcements as well as diving deep into the Server-based Naples implementation and what the motherboards told us from memory and IO support.

You can read both here:

AMD Zen Microarchitecture: Dual Schedulers, Micro-op Cache and Memory Hierarchy Revealed
AMD Server CPUs and Motherboard Analysis

There was one other element to the presentation that requires further discussion and analysis, if only to clean up some of the misinformation already present online and to label what was shown with a long list of potential caveats which most people seem to have passed by almost entirely. As part of the show, AMD compared the performance of their Zen engineering sample to an Intel Broadwell-E processor.

Source: Unpacking AMD's Zen Benchmark: Is Zen actually 2% Faster than Broadwell?
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what a stupid and pointless article.
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what a stupid and pointless article.
agreed, the comparison itself is vague, and to top it off its based off one benchmark that could've been optimized to favor one side.
Edited by epic1337 - 8/24/16 at 7:21am
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what a stupid and pointless article.
Agreed
I find that article rather lacking. I guess for newbies it has some points.


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Nothing but PR, this isn't news but rumour.

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But what if it is...? 

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But what if it is...? 

...then my next rig is AMD based biggrin.gif
 
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agreed, the comparison itself is vague, and to top it off its based off one benchmark that could've been optimized to favor one side.

Isn't it the purpose why they wrote an article about it? I think basically what it said is, don't get too hyped based on 1-2 benchmarks. But I agree that this should not be an article coming from AT but rather one from WCCFTech
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Isn't it the purpose why they wrote an article about it? I think basically what it said is, don't get too hyped based on 1-2 benchmarks. But I agree that this should not be an article coming from AT but rather one from WCCFTech

But WCCFTech wouldn't try to reduce the hype. I agree it not the normal article from AT and is rather lacking.
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A pointless article from AT, you didn't see that too often when Anand was still around.
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