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post #11 of 43
No point getting excited until they release and we can test them ourselves.

Still remember how Bulldozer was the best thing ever, until customers got hold of them and found out it was a lemon..
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post #12 of 43
Really? This is an Anandtech article? I expected better. :/
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Are they seriously implying OSS software is less reliable as a benchmark and that AMD could have potentially tampered with the code for the presentation?
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Wow this is a bad article.
Just pure PR speculation.

Also, my opinion still stands. They down clocked the 6900k to their level when the 6900k reaches 4.3-4.5ghz, this zen chip rotation won't beat it.
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Originally Posted by epic1337 View Post

agreed, the comparison itself is vague, and to top it off its based off one benchmark that could've been optimized to favor one side.

By "Optimized to favor one side" you mean, as in Intel compiled Cinebench ? biggrin.gif
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By "Optimized to favor one side" you mean, as in Intel compiled Cinebench ? biggrin.gif

Exactly right, Intel has never been caught using a "Cripple AMD" function in their compilers.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robenger View Post

Exactly right, Intel has never been caught using a "Cripple AMD" function in their compilers.

So has never been AMD caught using a "Cripple Intel" function in anywhere.
Do you remember ? "it is not AMD's job to optimize code for non Genuine AMD CPUs". wink.gif




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The first problem here is that this article shouldn't be in the news section as it isn't news, nor a rumour (about what would it be?) or unconfirmed article (again, about what?); it's an editorialized piece based on information that we already know from previous news articles.

And on top of that, we have basically discussed the matter in the proper news thread, it's the common sense position "We only have one first party provided benchmark result to derive conclusions, so we really can't, so let's go with caution.". It just turns out that AT decided to make a whole article about it.
Edited by tpi2007 - 8/24/16 at 11:43am
 
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Wow this is a bad article.
Just pure PR speculation.

Also, my opinion still stands. They down clocked the 6900k to their level when the 6900k reaches 4.3-4.5ghz, this zen chip rotation won't beat it.
What 6900K are you looking at? The one I was thinking of buying on newegg only has a 3.2 baseclock. tongue.gif
As others have said many times before, they downclocked the 6900K to demonstrate IPC.

I'm going to assume that stock consumer Zen vs. stock consumer BW-E, in 9/10 cases BW-E will outperform Zen. That other 1/10 being blender rendering thumb.gif
post #20 of 43
Article just rehashes points that would have entered the mind of any reasonable person looking at the AMD event.
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No point getting excited until they release and we can test them ourselves.

There is always a credible picture painted before release. It starts off vague and fragmentary, but I cannot think of a single CPU launch in the last fifteen years where the information I had a few months before launch was not largely accurate.
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Originally Posted by Satans_Hell View Post

Still remember how Bulldozer was the best thing ever, until customers got hold of them and found out it was a lemon..

We found out Bulldozer was a lemon (at least relative to certain inflated expectations) quite a while before release. Only those who weren't paying attention and refused to pay heed to numerous credible leaks were caught with their pants down.
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The first problem here is that this article shouldn't be in the news section as it isn't news, nor a rumour (about what would it be?) or unconfirmed article (again, about what?); it's an editorialized piece based on information that we already know from previous news articles.

And on top of that, we have basically discussed the matter in the proper news thread, it's the common sense position "We only have one first party provided benchmark result to derive conclusions, so we really can't, so let's go with caution.". It just turns out that AT decided to make a whole article about it.

Pretty much.
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