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post #21 of 43
Insufficient data for any meaningful conclusion. Hell even Bulldozer would win an occasional benchmark vs a comparable Intel i7, but no sane individual would conclude it' was faster overall.
Edited by BinaryDemon - 8/24/16 at 4:15pm
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You guys forget that those king of articles is for people who does not visit overclocking forums daily or that they've seen any amd presentation. It's not as bad as you say it is.
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You guys forget that those king of articles is for people who does not visit overclocking forums daily or that they've seen any amd presentation. It's not as bad as you say it is.

That was my thinking as well. This article isn't "for us." Though I would say, as someone else already did; this information was hashed out ad nauseam in another thread. This probably should have been linked in there.
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Too bad AMD takes FOREVER to compete with Intel and Nvidia's top products. I would have gladly went all AMD this round.
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Knowing AMD is always under deliver, my money is Zen will have Ivy bridge IPC.
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post #26 of 43
Cant wait for this
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Really? This is an Anandtech article? I expected better. :/
Mr. Anand Lal Shimpi retired from AnandTech long ago. That site was a shinking ship before he left but with Ryan as chief editor the thing is going down even faster.

In fact there is a huge crisis among tech sites focused on the PC and surroundings. It's heartbreaking how sites like TechReport outright beg for money to review absolutely nothing and every name worth noting is leaving the gig for greener pastures.

That's why every single article reeks to PR and everything seems so biased one way or another.
post #28 of 43
i'm just going to point out this is one of a series of 4 articles as there is another after:

AMD Zen Microarchiture Part 2: Extracting Instruction-Level Parallelism

but believing most who replied here didn't read the source, i doubt anyone read the others.

in that spirit, then zen will be the best cpu EVA! redface.gif

pssst this article was directed not to users . .but to the media. wink.gif
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post #29 of 43
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i'm just going to point out this is one of a series of 4 articles as there is another after:

AMD Zen Microarchiture Part 2: Extracting Instruction-Level Parallelism

but believing most who replied here didn't read the source, i doubt anyone read the others.

in that spirit, then zen will be the best cpu EVA! redface.gif

pssst this article was directed not to users . .but to the media. wink.gif

Well the execution engine was vastly improved... 6 issues per cycle (4 ALU and 2 AGU) is a very nice addition: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

The Micro-Op Cache is also a welcomed addition (something found on current Intel CPUs): Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

The one caveat is the L3 Cache being shared by up to 4 cores. This makes Zen highly scalable but also means that an internal communications medium (Hypertransport?) will be needed in order to maintain coherency between two Quad Core CPU segments in an 8 Core product: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I am curious to see what sort of performance boost AMDs SMT can muster relative to Intel's HT technology: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Zen could be used as a means of pushing more cores CPUs into the mainstream depending on how competitive it is with the higher-end Intel CPUs such as the 5960X. If Zen is slower, then it could be used as a means of competing against mainstream CPUs and high end CPUs such as the 6700K or 6900K products.
Edited by Mahigan - 8/24/16 at 7:02pm
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post #30 of 43
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what a stupid and pointless article.
agreed, the comparison itself is vague, and to top it off its based off one benchmark that could've been optimized to favor one side.

Its a fair benchmark as long as you ignore the fact they had the ability to Cherrypick the program to bench with (who uses blender as benchmarking tool?), lower the intel CPU's clocks for the "clock-to-clock comparison" and 2% is almost within error margin which means they could have run the benchmark a couple of times to get the highest gap.

They've only got the ZEN clocks working for them which might end up slightly higher than in the "benchmark". Wether they can clock them as high as intel's 6900k is another question.
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