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Its a fair benchmark as long as you ignore the fact they had the ability to Cherrypick the program to bench with (who uses blender as benchmarking tool?), lower the intel CPU's clocks for the "clock-to-clock comparison" and 2% is almost within error margin which means they could have run the benchmark a couple of times to get the highest gap.

They've only got the ZEN clocks working for them which might end up slightly higher than in the "benchmark". Wether they can clock them as high as intel's 6900k is another question.

I wish I could give you negative rep for this brilliant conspiracy theory you've concocted.
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post #32 of 43
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I wish I could give you negative rep for this brilliant conspiracy theory you've concocted.
I second this.
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lol 2% improvemen would require high n number to establish significance

ither wise its within error range
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post #34 of 43
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Wow this is a bad article.
Just pure PR speculation.

Also, my opinion still stands. They down clocked the 6900k to their level when the 6900k reaches 4.3-4.5ghz, this zen chip rotation won't beat it.

You are exaggerating, badly.
First they used a final product against an engineer sample. Does that sound fair to you??
Testing both CPUs at the same clock allowed us to see the singlethread improvements AMD made. I mean heck they could have compared their 3ghz 8c/16t whit a 4c/8t Skylake and say "look how much faster our CPU is even at 3ghz" .
And second we don't know how much will Zen clock but I doubt it will be limited to 3ghz.
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No point getting excited until they release and we can test them ourselves.

Still remember how Bulldozer was the best thing ever, until customers got hold of them and found out it was a lemon..
As I recall, benchmarks on it leaked several weeks before the actual release and showed that it wasn't particularly fast. You never know about these things (someone got ahold of a Athlon ES on a beta chipset in '99, a few months ahead of its release, and it didn't look good either), but there were plenty of signs that BD was a dud before it arrived.

So far, everything I've seen indicates strongly that Zen is a competitive product. Like I said, you never know, but the early signs are a complete 180 from what we saw with BD.
     
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As I recall, benchmarks on it leaked several weeks before the actual release and showed that it wasn't particularly fast. You never know about these things (someone got ahold of a Athlon ES on a beta chipset in '99, a few months ahead of its release, and it didn't look good either), but there were plenty of signs that BD was a dud before it arrived.

So far, everything I've seen indicates strongly that Zen is a competitive product. Like I said, you never know, but the early signs are a complete 180 from what we saw with BD.

I don't think Lisa Su or as I call her "Wang Chung Master" would allow that to happen. Just comparing biographies between Rory Reed and Lisa Su you can see a stark difference. Su is an outstanding engineer and Reed is not. I see a difference in approach with how things have been presented in the past between the two and undoubtedly Su is very aware of how important Zen is as she hired Jim Keller.
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I don't think Lisa Su or as I call her "Wang Chung Master" would allow that to happen. Just comparing biographies between Rory Reed and Lisa Su you can see a stark difference. Su is an outstanding engineer and Reed is not. I see a difference in approach with how things have been presented in the past between the two and undoubtedly Su is very aware of how important Zen is as she hired Jim Keller.
She is a doctor of science. How long would I have to study until I made it into history and called unto talking about the fundamental properties of the field...
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She is a doctor of science. How long would I have to study until I made it into history and called unto talking about the fundamental properties of the field...

Become a woman?
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She is a doctor of science. How long would I have to study until I made it into history and called unto talking about the fundamental properties of the field...

Why did you link a 49 min documentry on copper?
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Why did you link a 49 min documentry on copper?
Doesn't it work? I inserted time code for '31:29"
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