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He's using adobe so a slightly slower 2x8GB is better than a slightly faster 1x16GB stick
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If I am not bothered about overclocking would it be ok to go with the i7-6700 rather than the i7-6700k? This would free up funds for the SSD. I have been looking at comparisons between the i7 and i5 (cheaper 6600k model) but I feel as I'm not concerned with overclocking the hyper threading on the i7 is going to benefit me when it comes to Adobe. Or does overclocking bring decent benefits that is worth spending the extra money on the i7-6700k or swapping out for the i5-6600k?

Taking into consideration everyones feedback and more research I now have:

Fractal Design Define S Case
Asus Z170-A motherboard*
Intel i7-6700
2x 8GB RAM (with plans to add 2 more 8GB RAM later if needed)
EVGA Supernova 550 G2 PSU
Noctuca NH-U14S Fan
1 x 256 GB SSD (with plans to add a 1TB HDD a month later)

This comes to just over £700. I'm guessing this is the lowest I can push it with the intent of adding a GPU later down the line.

*I prefer the look of the Z170-A to the Pro Gaming (plus it is cheaper) and the only other difference I can work out is the built in sound quality. I'm thinking of a sound card install later in the future to support MIDI inputs so I'm under the impression this feature difference is not an issue.

Thanks for everyones help so far!
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Just to let you know an air based CPU cooler is not called a fan thats something else entirely
As for soundcards the one built into the motherboard is okey.
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

Just to let you know an air based CPU cooler is not called a fan thats something else entirely
As for soundcards the one built into the motherboard is okey.

Haha noted. Saw the fan and assumed fan like a rookie.
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post #15 of 30
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If I am not bothered about overclocking would it be ok to go with the i7-6700 rather than the i7-6700k? This would free up funds for the SSD. I have been looking at comparisons between the i7 and i5 (cheaper 6600k model) but I feel as I'm not concerned with overclocking the hyper threading on the i7 is going to benefit me when it comes to Adobe. Or does overclocking bring decent benefits that is worth spending the extra money on the i7-6700k or swapping out for the i5-6600k?

You would only save a little going with the i7 6700 non K, an overclock will improve performance. Whether it is noticeable to you is another thing.

I don't think you need that expensive CPU cooler if you want to save. Something like this would give you some overclock headroom, I've used it before: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16835103099

And for a better overclock you really need water cooling anyways.
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So an i7-6700K with the cheaper cooler and no overclocking is perfectly fine? balances out the slight CPU price increase and leaves the option of overclocking in the future if I wish. Thanks smile.gif
Edited by dannyalder88 - 8/24/16 at 1:47pm
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Originally Posted by dannyalder88 View Post

So an i7-6700K with the cheaper fan and no overclocking is perfectly fine? balances out the slight CPU price increase and leaves the option of overclocking in the future if I wish. Thanks smile.gif

Indeed it would save money, I'm also implying you can overclock now if you like (probably up to 4.5-4.7ghz depending on the chip) using that cooler.
post #18 of 30
A cooler is still not a fan

This is a CPU air cooler with a 120mm fan on it but its still a cooler


This is just a fan


When you mean cooler and say fan instead you confuse everyone
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post #19 of 30
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Sorry I meant cooler. I've edited my post.

I also read that the EVO cooler can have an extra fan attached. Would this be a cheaper alternative to a new cooler if I decided to push overclocking the CPU?
Edited by dannyalder88 - 8/24/16 at 1:50pm
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Originally Posted by dannyalder88 View Post

Sorry I meant cooler. I've edited my post.

I also read that the EVO cooler can have an extra fan attached. Would this be a cheaper alternative to a new cooler if I decided to push overclocking the CPU?

Yes a second fan will help, just make sure they create positive air flow! (not blowing only in or only outwards). Overclocking isn't a precise science, you don't just punch specific numbers in and expect it to work, generally speaking you're just trying to eliminate as much heat as possible that comes from pumping up the voltage & power draw in incremental steps. One fan will probably still get you a decent overclock. Do some more reading here & you will see.
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