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Hey guys! I'm super stoked, I was finally able to snag one of the new radeon cards! *HD 6950 on OC with unlocked shaders sobs in relief in background* I originally wanted to get the Sapphire RX 480 Nitro+, but didn't have the extra $40, and haven't seen it back in stock any time recently, so I grabbed the 470 Nitro+ 8GB card, which IMO isn't gonna be much worse for 1080. If anything it will be better.

System specs:
MOBO: Gigabyte F2A85X-UP4
CPU: AMD A10 6800K
Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo
GPU: Sapphire HD 6950 (Unlocked shaders and OC)
RAM: G-Skill Ripjaws 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz
PSU: Silverstone 500W Bronze

My questions are

1. (noob question) Is installing a new card really as easy as A. Uninstalling drivers, B. shutting PC down, C. swapping out cards, and then just download the drivers for the new card? I only ask because "nothing is that simple" haha.

2. (I've already had some assistance in this but still apparently "dont get it") Any assistance with learning about overclocking my CPU from 4.1Ghz base to around 4.6Ghz stable OC as a 24/7 thing would be appreciated. My goal is to have it OC'ed in the BIOS so that it's already ready to go when needed. I attempted to OC myself, results were eh, running two stresstests (wanted to make SURE I was stressing it) after around 20 minutes my PC shut down. I'm guessing I didn't have the voltage high enough on my OC or something because the entire time before the shutdown it was doing just fine, and staying decently below 50C as well. Voltage scares me so I intentionally set it fairly low, but I know that BIOS editing can be wonky too...

Reason I'm really trying to get the CPU OC stable asap is because I'm not sure if it will bottleneck my new card or not. I know the card isn't crazy powerful, but at the same time my CPU could be better. (Could be a lot worse too)

But I'm satisified with my sub $300 rig (soon to be $500 rig with the new card hehe) so far, I've been able to play Fallout 4, Doom, and a few other newer games with decent settings at decent FPS. My next upgrade is going to be a new HDD and then new ram, followed by a better power supply. My hard drives are TIRED (6 years of power-on-time)

Sorry this post is all over the place, but I'm trying to make sure I know what I'm doing before I just "Go for it" haha.



    
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Just to let you know in case you are not already aware but your PSU is going to be holding your overclocking back
Its not terrible or anything like that, but it is group regulated which means its voltage regulation is at 2% which is a bit mediocre

If you are going to spend more money on your PC i would suggest a new PSU
As for your question about drivers yes its that easy uninstall old drivers shut down PC install new video card boot up PC install new drivers.
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Just to let you know in case you are not already aware but your PSU is going to be holding your overclocking back
Its not terrible or anything like that, but it is group regulated which means its voltage regulation is at 2% which is a bit mediocre

If you are going to spend more money on your PC i would suggest a new PSU
As for your question about drivers yes its that easy uninstall old drivers shut down PC install new video card boot up PC install new drivers.

Thanks for the reply! I figured my PSU wasn't gonna cut it forever, but didn't realize it was gonna need swapped out already haha. I do plan on getting a nice Corsair 750w modular PSU in the near future, probably shortly after I get a new HDD.

I had originally wondered if my PC shut down during the torture testing simply due to not having enough juice to keep it running, and that very well may be the issue. Thanks again.
    
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Which Corsair 750 watt PSU? and i hope you dont mean the CX750? if you are then this
Why you should not buy a Corsair CX750

You dont even need a 750 watt PSU unless you are going to have two video cards
A good 550 watt is enough for most systems with a single video card in it.

Get a quality PSU and not just the cheapest and bigest PSU you can find
The Corsair RMx or the EVGA SuperNova G2 are both very good options and they are very fair priced as well.
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Which Corsair 750 watt PSU? and i hope you dont mean the CX750? if you are then this
Why you should not buy a Corsair CX750

You dont even need a 750 watt PSU unless you are going to have two video cards
A good 550 watt is enough for most systems with a single video card in it.

Get a quality PSU and not just the cheapest and bigest PSU you can find
The Corsair RMx or the EVGA SuperNova G2 are both very good options and they are very fair priced as well.

Can I say I wasn't and you'll believe me? haha I was looking at the CX 750M as one of my options haha apparently not any more XD. I do not have 2 cards NOW but I wouldn't mind being future proof for if I ever DO end up with 2, because as long as crossfire sticks around, I plan on it.

So *edited because I put the wrong link....* a CX 550M would be a decent one then? The 550W version is on sale right now for like $40 after a rebate, which isn't bad at all to get for the time being since you said I don't need 750W. ($99 for the 750W, big price difference and you said, they kinda suck)

I REALLY need a new hard drive though because I can live without overclocking, I cannot however live without a main hard drive. SO FAR I haven't been hearing any odd noises (that I've noticed) coming from either of my two current 6+ year old WD Blue 500GB drives I have in there but since HDD failure can occur without notice I'd like to air on the side of caution lol.

As far as HDD's go I'm flip flopping between WD Black 1 TB and a WD Blue 1TB as my main drive. I do plan on adding an additional internal drive later on to the tune of 2 or 3TB, but may just use a 1TB internal in addition to my main drive and invest in a nice 4 or 5 TB external backup.




Side note that's kind of a main note- My card showed up a day early and I'm about to unbox it and attempt installation. Hopefully I use the right power connectors and don't fry my brand new card mad.gif
Edited by Tisser12 - 8/25/16 at 7:35pm
    
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Just to let you know the CX550 has nothing to do with the CX750 or the CX430/500/600 for that matter and is in fact newer and better then the old CX units
Corsair CX series explained

Edit: As for new storage why not get an SSD?
Edited by shilka - 8/26/16 at 2:49am
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Just to let you know the CX550 has nothing to do with the CX750 or the CX430/500/600 for that matter and is in fact newer and better then the old CX units
Corsair CX series explained

Edit: As for new storage why not get an SSD?

Ah thanks for the heads up. I honestly am still learning a lot as far as which products to avoid and not. Might jump on that CX550M then since it's only gonna be around $40.

And as for SSDs I just have read too many horror stories of SSDs going kaput with 0 warning and since i can't afford to buy a $500 250GB drive I just plan on sticking with oldschool hard drives. Better boot time is not worth an extra $65-70 to me at this point. I'd rather spend that money towards a bigger HDD.
    
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Ah thanks for the heads up. I honestly am still learning a lot as far as which products to avoid and not. Might jump on that CX550M then since it's only gonna be around $40.

And as for SSDs I just have read too many horror stories of SSDs going kaput with 0 warning and since i can't afford to buy a $500 250GB drive I just plan on sticking with oldschool hard drives. Better boot time is not worth an extra $65-70 to me at this point. I'd rather spend that money towards a bigger HDD.

SSDs are much cheaper now then they used to be. Ive actually had more issues with Hard Drives as compared to the 3, and only 3 SSDs ive been using for the last 5 years (no issues) but to each their own. Was going to mention something about the PSU options too but Shilka beat me to it (he usually does) and he knows his stuff about that topic.

For drivers, You could use Driver Display Uninstaller (i think) in Safe Mode to be "really" sure all old drivers were wiped. Then go along as normal with installing the new GPU and getting those drivers. (Or even download the actual installer before hand and then just run the installer once swapped over)

Then for the Overclocking, I honestly would keep your CPU where it is right now and see what your system readings are when you use your new GPU. I still use a z77 with an i5 3570k and rarely even hit over 50% usage that is paired with my new GTX 1070 that maxes out easily (1440p on 27" monitor). I would find that sweetspot for the GPU overclock and then adjust (if you even have too) the CPU clock to be higher.

If your keeping your mobo, a RAM upgrade honestly wont do much or anything noticeable. You would see a better performance gain from SSDs over HDs.
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SSDs are much cheaper now then they used to be. Ive actually had more issues with Hard Drives as compared to the 3, and only 3 SSDs ive been using for the last 5 years (no issues) but to each their own. Was going to mention something about the PSU options too but Shilka beat me to it (he usually does) and he knows his stuff about that topic.

For drivers, You could use Driver Display Uninstaller (i think) in Safe Mode to be "really" sure all old drivers were wiped. Then go along as normal with installing the new GPU and getting those drivers. (Or even download the actual installer before hand and then just run the installer once swapped over)

Then for the Overclocking, I honestly would keep your CPU where it is right now and see what your system readings are when you use your new GPU. I still use a z77 with an i5 3570k and rarely even hit over 50% usage that is paired with my new GTX 1070 that maxes out easily (1440p on 27" monitor). I would find that sweetspot for the GPU overclock and then adjust (if you even have too) the CPU clock to be higher.

If your keeping your mobo, a RAM upgrade honestly wont do much or anything noticeable. You would see a better performance gain from SSDs over HDs.

Mobo is one thing that I don't really plan on upgrading anytime soon, reason being because once I'm at that point I may as well rebuild the whole computer haha. Once I get around to it I will upgrade that too though, probably at the same time I get a new case, and CPU. I don't ever get close to maxing out my 8GB of RAM, so that's not really a NEEDED upgrade, I just wanted to be ready and future proof as I can be. 2GB used to be TONS plenty to give you a fast PC and now my phone struggles with 3 hahah

As far as the card installation goes, I installed it last night, forgot to post it here. I did exactly what you said, already had the stuff downloaded to put the drivers on. Ran DOOM fully maxed out at a smooth 60fps it was glorious.

I'll keep an eye on my CPU, not planning on voiding the warranty on my new card just yet so I dont think I'll be doing any overclocking or anything QUITE yet. Seeing as it runs awesomely as-is. I do want to set the fans a bit higher though, I was running around 75C last night and I want it a bit cooler than that during gaming.

I'll probably get an SSD eventually, but for the time being I want to get my main drives upgraded. Necessary upgrades before optional. (Even though my priority list is a bit wonked I'll admit)

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Why not just get a small SSD for your OS and programs like say a 240-256 GB as those are dirt cheap compared to how they where use to be priced
That way you can get faster boot and loading times but you dont have to spend a fortune

You could even get a 120-128 GB and use it just for OS and nothing else but a 240-256 has a much lower $ per gigabyte price
SSD´s are not as unreliable as you heard horror stories of.
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