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post #1 of 9
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Hello all,

I've just put together a new computer. The specs are as follows:
Motherboard: SuperMicro H8SGL-F
Processor: AMD Opteron 6276 @ 2.6GHz
Memory: 16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB 2x8GB @ 1600MHz
GPU: XFX R9 390X 8vr6
SSD: OCZ Agility4 60GB SSD
PSU: CX600



So, the problem I'm getting is that at random times the computer will freeze briefly and then the screen will become distorted into horizontal bars. As seen in the picture below.




So the short history of debugging and problem finding so far was like this:

I initially found a problem when I booted up after a clean install; began trying to install AMD Crimson drivers for the GPU and got a BSoD towards the end of the installation when installing "AMD Evolved Gaming". The BSoD was titled "MEMORY_MANAGEMENT."
I rebooted and attempted the installation again and it went through fine. Shortly after this I continued getting BSoDs all with "MEMORY_MANAGEMENT" errors. So I used DDU to uninstall and then reinstall GPU drivers. I swapped out the ram and back in one stick at a time.

Now after reinstalling windows several times and reinstalling the GPU drivers more times than I care to think about; I do not get BSoDs anymore. I only get the horizontal bar crash as seen above.

The crash never has happened immediately upon boot. It happens after 15 minutes to an hour.

I've run FurMark and Prime95 for 10 minutes each with no crash. I ran CompuBench and got a crash at the Bitcoin benchmark; but I ran it again with no crash.

I've monitored the GPU, CPU and NB temperatures all the while. The CPU has not gone above 55C and the GPU is set to throttle at 75C and this is working properly. The NB was heating up quite a bit at first (I saw it at 80C at one point), so I put a fan on it and it's now at a much happier 54-56C.

I ran one pass on Memtest86, and got no errors. I figured that with crashes occuring this frequently, if the RAM was the issue, it would have found an error on the first pass.

I've found that if I run FurMark for ~5 minutes, then immediately close it and open another application like Steam; the system will crash with the horizontal bars like above.

If I leave the computer just sitting on for ~20 minutes it will crash with horizontal bars like above. 20 minutes is a very rough estimate. Sometimes it seems fine for 30-45 minutes and sometimes it's much closer to 15 minutes.


I appreciate any input. I've been beating my head against the wall with this one smile.gif
post #2 of 9
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Originally Posted by Skyl3r View Post

Hello all,

I've just put together a new computer. The specs are as follows:
Motherboard: SuperMicro H8SGL-F
Processor: AMD Opteron 6276 @ 2.6GHz
Memory: 16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB 2x8GB @ 1600MHz
GPU: XFX R9 390X 8vr6
SSD: OCZ Agility4 60GB SSD
PSU: CX600



So, the problem I'm getting is that at random times the computer will freeze briefly and then the screen will become distorted into horizontal bars. As seen in the picture below.




So the short history of debugging and problem finding so far was like this:

I initially found a problem when I booted up after a clean install; began trying to install AMD Crimson drivers for the GPU and got a BSoD towards the end of the installation when installing "AMD Evolved Gaming". The BSoD was titled "MEMORY_MANAGEMENT."
I rebooted and attempted the installation again and it went through fine. Shortly after this I continued getting BSoDs all with "MEMORY_MANAGEMENT" errors. So I used DDU to uninstall and then reinstall GPU drivers. I swapped out the ram and back in one stick at a time.

Now after reinstalling windows several times and reinstalling the GPU drivers more times than I care to think about; I do not get BSoDs anymore. I only get the horizontal bar crash as seen above.

The crash never has happened immediately upon boot. It happens after 15 minutes to an hour.

I've run FurMark and Prime95 for 10 minutes each with no crash. I ran CompuBench and got a crash at the Bitcoin benchmark; but I ran it again with no crash.

I've monitored the GPU, CPU and NB temperatures all the while. The CPU has not gone above 55C and the GPU is set to throttle at 75C and this is working properly. The NB was heating up quite a bit at first (I saw it at 80C at one point), so I put a fan on it and it's now at a much happier 54-56C.

I ran one pass on Memtest86, and got no errors. I figured that with crashes occuring this frequently, if the RAM was the issue, it would have found an error on the first pass.

I've found that if I run FurMark for ~5 minutes, then immediately close it and open another application like Steam; the system will crash with the horizontal bars like above.

If I leave the computer just sitting on for ~20 minutes it will crash with horizontal bars like above. 20 minutes is a very rough estimate. Sometimes it seems fine for 30-45 minutes and sometimes it's much closer to 15 minutes.


I appreciate any input. I've been beating my head against the wall with this one smile.gif

Have you attempted to just tear it down and re-seat everything? Possibly try launching from onboard graphics first and see what happens? Then move onto your GPU and test again.
post #3 of 9
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Originally Posted by drazah View Post

Have you attempted to just tear it down and re-seat everything? Possibly try launching from onboard graphics first and see what happens? Then move onto your GPU and test again.

I have reseated everything on the board multiple times now while debugging.

I will test onboard graphics today and perhaps the GPU in a separate system.
post #4 of 9
Have you tried using another PSU?
And before you ask why you would be surprised by what kind of havoc a defective PSU can casue.
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post #5 of 9
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Have you tried using another PSU?
I have not, unfortunately I don't have an extra one laying around at the moment. I'm planning on getting a new one with a bit higher power rating tomorrow or Saturday; contingent on not having to replace my motherboard or GPU.

I may have an opportunity to test a different PSU today. Fingers crossed.

Is it possible that the system is overdrawing the PSU? I'd expect this to only happen when the GPU is on full load.
I had originally calculated the build at between 400w and 450w giving me at least ~100w of wiggle room.
Edited by Skyl3r - 8/25/16 at 7:58am
post #6 of 9
You dont really need more wattage you already have enough what you need is better quality not more wattage

Your system is not drawing 400 or 450 watts so that so called calculator you used is wrong and rubbish like they all are
Why all online PSU calculators are wrong and is total bogus

All you really need for your system is a good 550 watt PSU unless you are going to BIOS volt mod the video card

As for the Corsair CX dont get another one of those
Why you should not buy a Corsair CX430/500/600
Why you should not buy a Corsair CX750
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post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

You dont really need more wattage you already have enough what you need is better quality not more wattage

Your system is not drawing 400 or 450 watts so that so called calculator you used is wrong and rubbish like they all are
Why all online PSU calculators are wrong and is total bogus

All you really need for your system is a good 550 watt PSU unless you are going to BIOS volt mod the video card

As for the Corsair CX dont get another one of those
Why you should not buy a Corsair CX430/500/600
Why you should not buy a Corsair CX750


TomsHardware measured the R9 390x at an average of 320w and it even peaked at 420w. It seems very likely to me that my calculation is at least somewhat close to accurate.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-390x-r9-380-r7-370,4178-10.html

Thanks for the information on the CX600, I will shoot for a better quality PSU on my next go about.
post #8 of 9
The 390x seems like its a massive power hog when overclocked
But still getting a PSU bigger then 650 watts is a bit overkill

As for which one either the Corsair RMx or the EVGA SuperNova G2 those are the best options when it comes to bang for buck
Both are about the same so take a pick on which one to get, sometimes the G2 is cheaper and sometimes the RMx is cheaper

Do you happen to have a digtal multi meter? if you do have one you can test your CX600 and see if the voltages are messed up.
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post #9 of 9
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

The 390x seems like its a massive power hog when overclocked
But still getting a PSU bigger then 650 watts is a bit overkill

As for which one either the Corsair RMx or the EVGA SuperNova G2 those are the best options when it comes to bang for buck
Both are about the same so take a pick on which one to get, sometimes the G2 is cheaper and sometimes the RMx is cheaper

Do you happen to have a digtal multi meter? if you do have one you can test your CX600 and see if the voltages are messed up.

Okay thanks for the suggestions!
If I ever get the system stable, I intend to do some overclocking. So I wanted to get a 750 or even 850w PSU; but at the moment the priority is making the thing work in the first place tongue.gif

I do have a multimeter and that's a very good point. I'll test it today and report back findings.




EDIT

Okay, so I got a chance to do some more testing.

I tested with no GPU, GPU+New RAM and New CPU.
Here are the findings:

New RAM + GPU:
Same issue.
It runs fine like there's no issues. Then I run a game or FurMark or anything stressful on the GPU. Directly after closing FurMark or the game I launch another program and it crashes. Every time.

No GPU:
No issues (besides onboard graphics being ungodly slow smile.gif )

New CPU:
Same issue; no change.


I'll get a SuperNova G2 750w or 850w tomorrow and test that as well. Given that my problems are alleviated by removing the GPU, I assume it has to be the PSU, GPU or Motherboard and is most likely the PSU or GPU.

Motherboard
CPU
Memory
Storage
GPU
PSU

3 down, 3 to go smile.gif
Edited by Skyl3r - 8/25/16 at 8:05pm
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