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Hmm. It looks to me like he has the refresh rate at 60Hz.
Might be, I wanted to know what exactly to look out for, and that was helpful. While I read this is a bigger problem with 144 Hz panels, ideally it shouldn't happen at any refresh rate, right?
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PCMonitors requested a review sample from Dell. Keep a lookout for a possible review from them. If this things comes with a light matte coating like the A02 and A03 revisions of the S2716DG and the price drops to 450 I'll pick one up.
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Might be, I wanted to know what exactly to look out for, and that was helpful. While I read this is a bigger problem with 144 Hz panels, ideally it shouldn't happen at any refresh rate, right?

 

I kinda see something similar to that on my XB241H with its refresh rate set to 60. At 120Hz and above, it's butter-smooth. Even 100Hz isn't bad.

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I kinda see something similar to that on my XB241H with its refresh rate set to 60. At 120Hz and above, it's butter-smooth. Even 100Hz isn't bad.
Huh, interesting. I'll check at different refresh rates, then. Are you interested in this one solely because of the higher pixel density?
post #15 of 1553
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Huh, interesting. I'll check at different refresh rates, then. Are you interested in this one solely because of the higher pixel density?

 

I'm trying to get away from the absolutely horrible brightness uniformity of the panel that Acer, ASUS and AOC are using for the XB241H, the PG248Q, and the G2460PG (respectively). I don't know if there are any other 24" 1080p 144Hz G-SYNC monitors that use this panel, but good lord. I'm tired of it. I am returning this monitor as "defective" when I have time.

 

The S2716DG has excellent uniformity as seen here:

 

https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-s2716dg/

 

I'm going to be gaming at 1080p though because my computer tanks at 1440p (tested) and I don't want to have 1080p on a 27" monitor. So, if the S2417DG is as good as the S2716DG (I don't know yet), then damn... all I will have to do is wait for its price to go down to something that's far more reasonable.

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post #16 of 1553
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I'm trying to get away from the absolutely horrible brightness uniformity of the panel that Acer, ASUS and AOC are using for the XB241H, the PG248Q, and the G2460PG (respectively). I don't know if there are any other 24" 1080p 144Hz G-SYNC monitors that use this panel, but good lord. I'm tired of it. I am returning this monitor as "defective" when I have time.
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I'm going to be gaming at 1080p though because my computer tanks at 1440p (tested) and I don't want to have 1080p on a 27" monitor. So, if the S2417DG is as good as the S2716DG (I don't know yet), then damn... all I will have to do is wait for its price to go down to something that's far more reasonable.
Interesting, I had already ordered the XB241H but it was out of stock, giving me time to think. Was very curious about the PG248Q as well since the Predator's design is very over the top.
When I compared pixel densities, though, I realized that I'm spoiled with retina displays all around me (MacBook Pro at work, Surface Pro 4 and LG G4 on the go), and I wanted something better, that's when I heard about the AG241QG (123 ppi). Then in a list of 1440p ~24" monitors I saw the S2417DG (likely same panel) and went for it.

I'm skeptical about the picture quality you're going to get from upscaling to the S2417DG's 1440p, though. Maybe the XB251Q / PG258Q / AG251FZ (1080p at up to 240Hz) would be a better match for you, assuming they won't have the brightness uniformity issues? At 24.5", their pixel density (89.91 ppi) is slightly worse than the XB241H (91.79 ppi), but that's probably not noticeable.
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Interesting, I had already ordered the XB241H but it was out of stock, giving me time to think. Was very curious about the PG248Q as well since the Predator's design is very over the top.
When I compared pixel densities, though, I realized that I'm spoiled with retina displays all around me (MacBook Pro at work, Surface Pro 4 and LG G4 on the go), and I wanted something better, that's when I heard about the AG241QG (123 ppi). Then in a list of 1440p ~24" monitors I saw the S2417DG (likely same panel) and went for it.

I'm skeptical about the picture quality you're going to get from upscaling to the S2417DG's 1440p, though. Maybe the XB251Q / PG258Q / AG251FZ (1080p at up to 240Hz) would be a better match for you, assuming they won't have the brightness uniformity issues? At 24.5", their pixel density (89.91 ppi) is slightly worse than the XB241H (91.79 ppi), but that's probably not noticeable.

 

Like I said, I'm interested in the S2417DG over the S2716DG because 1080p is too stretched out on 27" and 24" is about the maximum you want for 1080p, and I'd be playing my games at 1080p for the foreseeable future. That, and this price point is my maximum.

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post #18 of 1553
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Like I said, I'm interested in the S2417DG over the S2716DG because 1080p is too stretched out on 27" and 24" is about the maximum you want for 1080p, and I'd be playing my games at 1080p for the foreseeable future. That, and this price point is my maximum.

The S2417DG is 1440p like the S2716DG, though. So you're either killing your card at 1440p, or you're blurring your image by upscaling from 1080p to 1440p, or you're cropping your picture and effectively use an 18" monitor.
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The S2417DG is 1440p like the S2716DG, though. So you're either killing your card at 1440p, or you're blurring your image by upscaling from 1080p to 1440p, or you're cropping your picture and effectively use an 18" monitor.

 

I know it's a 1440p monitor, but what other 24" choices do I have? Y'know? Think about it: 1440p at the desktop, 1080p for gaming. If the quality of this panel is as good as the S2716DG, then 1080p gaming would be better on the 24" version than on the 27". I want G-SYNC, I want a super-high refresh rate, and I want to be able to have a 1ms response time for those days when I don't mind the downsides of using that.

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post #20 of 1553
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I know it's a 1440p monitor, but what other 24" choices do I have? Y'know? Think about it: 1440p at the desktop, 1080p for gaming. If the quality of this panel is as good as the S2716DG, then 1080p gaming would be better on the 24" version than on the 27".

The XB251Q / PG258Q / AG251FZ smile.gif Once available, of course. If it weren't for the pixel density, I'd wait for those to come out. Although there's probably some overclocking involved to get to 240 Hz. Native refresh rate might be more like 180 Hz, but that would already be good, because the current "180 Hz" panels have degraded picture quality when overclocked.
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