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So just got mines today. Going to try out some rainbow six later. If anyone has settings please post.
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Can anyone give their opinion on the colors on this monitor? I have a ~$140 ips screen that's at least 3 years old, if not older (h236hl), and I'm hoping the color difference won't be so huge.
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Originally Posted by Addthefun123123 View Post

Can anyone give their opinion on the colors on this monitor? I have a ~$140 ips screen that's at least 3 years old, if not older (h236hl), and I'm hoping the color difference won't be so huge.

I have comparison pictures in post #137 against an Asus MG24UQ. Its real disadvantage is the weaker contrast and not so much color performance.
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Just got mine some thoughts:

For those wondering how 1080p looks on it, it looks surprisingly very good. If you're coming from another 1080p 24", you won't notice much of a difference. I was really surprised, as it almost looks like it's a native resolution when compared to my XL2411Z. If you're coming from a 27" 1080p, this might even look better.

The monitor overall though, is pretty meh. The colors out of the box are awful, as everything just looks washed out (Edit from the future: The monitor didn't install drivers, and was using a base ICC profile. After installing the drivers, it loaded the proper color profile and looks much better). I might mess around with the settings later. The stand is very limited compared to my BenQ. My BenQ adjusts almost a full inch and a half higher. I have to slouch in my chair pretty far to get at eye level, so I would need a booster seat for the monitor. The screen size feels very small compared to my 24". This is probably good for hardcore gamers, as it's less screen space for your eyes to have to move around.

Scaling in Windows is good. Scaling in Chrome is really bad.

Every website looks tiny. Prepare to set a large global zoom.

The overdrive is really good, looks nearly pixel perfect.

Everything looks super sharp and crisp.

Coating is extremely nice, almost perfect. Looks like a mix between semi-glossy and matte, more towards matte.

G-Sync + 165hz looks pretty damn good, but people in this thread are way over hyping it. My BenQ with blur reduction tweaks looks a lot smoother in motion, even with worse ghosting, but my eyes can't withstand the strobing, so I never actually use it.

Mine has small black light bleed along the entire bottom edge, so using a dark taskbar like I'm using now appears to be a different color than how it looks on my BenQ. (Edit: Turning down the brightness nearly hides it all. I would say using a low 10% brightness hides about 85% of the glow it gives off.)

No dead pixels.

Vertical viewing angle is much better than my BenQ.

Power button requires hulk fingers. It's so hard to press, lol.

Styling is very sleek. I hated the curved grilles on the bottom corners, but you don't even see them when it's on your desk.

OSD menu is really lacking. It also has sound volume on the quick OSD, for what reason, I don't know. As far as I know there aren't any soundbars for this monitor?

At $430, it feels a bit expensive for what you get. I think at $350-$375, this monitor would be more justified for me. I feel that price will eventually happen, as Dell monitors always tank in price after a month or two, as they price gouge on launch. Reminds me of the $480 U2414h I bought, and a while later it's selling for $200. If you're coming from another 144hz panel, it might not be a good value, depending whether or not you value g-sync.

I'm most likely going to send mine back, but going to play with it over the weekend more and decide.
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There is no way 165Hz sample and hold will ever give equal motion clarity to 120Hz ULMB. When compared to any other monitor that isnt using ULMB I cant find a monitor that does motion better than this. Image quality definitely isnt a strong point as I was getting around 700:1 contrast ratio which is even worst than my benq xl2730z that got 850:1. But then again anyone after eye candy isnt going to be seeking a 24 inch TN panel anyway. Its not a perfect monitor but for some serious competitive play its really good.
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Good point. With this monitor, you get Gsync, 1440p and AVOIDING THE LOTTERY and a good panel for competitive play (if your video card is powerful enough). And that is a deal (as long as you avoid the monitor's crappy presets).

Anyone wanting pure feature overload and the best image quality should be buying the Eizo FS 2735 (IMO)
Anyone wanting pure strobing at the expense of image quality or resolution should be buying the XL2720Z (IMO again).
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There is no way 165Hz sample and hold will ever give equal motion clarity to 120Hz ULMB. When compared to any other monitor that isnt using ULMB I cant find a monitor that does motion better than this. Image quality definitely isnt a strong point as I was getting around 700:1 contrast ratio which is even worst than my benq xl2730z that got 850:1. But then again anyone after eye candy isnt going to be seeking a 24 inch TN panel anyway. Its not a perfect monitor but for some serious competitive play its really good.

I don't have a way to measure it, but it looks worse color wise than my BenQ also. Not by much, but I notice it. The thing is, the viewing angle improvement makes up for it. The vertical gamma shift is a lot less severe on the Dell. The coating also makes the colors pop a bit more. Everything also looks a lot more clear. I never noticed, but I can now see the haziness of the coating on the BenQ when directly comparing.

It's growing on me fast as I compare the Dell more and more to the BenQ. I think with a monitor arm I would be happy with this display.
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Hi guys,

Thanks for the great info in this thread.

I picked up one of these on amazon a few weeks ago, and then another one last week for dual screen goodness. Noticed the 2nd one's "whiteness" level was not congruent to my first, looks mildly more yellow (at the same exact settings) - but something I can live with.

Just a question. Do you guys know of any drawbacks to running at 165Hz (short-term or even long term) compared to the slower 144Hz. For example, does 165Hz affect input lag or image quality in a negative fashion? It's odd the monitor calls anything above 144Hz "overclocking" - you always worry about the negative impact "overclocking" might cause. I have overclocked most of everything I have owned, but monitors are something I am not experienced with.

Coming from an ASUS VG248QE, this monitor feels like quite a luxury. The higher pixel density is quite apparent in Dota 2. The very thin borders/bezel makes dual monitoring quite a pleasure. Build quality seems solid. The backlight "bleed" is much better on this compared to the ASUS. I tend to run at very low brightness levels anyway which sounds like it could help bleeding problems.

Thanks again, look forward to your responses.
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Streaming with it now. 165hz doesn't feel as snappy as 144hz :S looks smooth af though!
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Got mine, uniformity could be a little better, but at the lower brightness im running it at its not noticeable on a black screen. Viewing angles are a bit better than my outgoing 1080p 144hz monitor, but not by an extreme amount. I am noticing the pixel inversion however, black text on white backgrounds while scrolling you can see a greenlike aura around the text, its not too invasive, but still a con. I also did locate 1 dead pixel in the lower center portion of the screen. The lower bezel towards the right side is also coming up away from the screen and you can see the glue they used isn't holding up.

1440p @ 24" 100% scaling is comfortable for me to use, but at the same time i'm thinking a 27" makes better use of this resolution. YMMV. Image quality is comparable to my other monitor which has a removed matte coating and calibrated for BT.1886 which for some is "washed out" but i think otherwise, anyway i won't be going into that. I'm still not sure about keeping it or not. The dead pixel is a bummer, so that's something to think about.

Motion clarity isn't really noticeably better than my other monitor either, maybe its a little better? There's really only so much you can do with sample and hold on a typical LCD. It's got me thinking that a 1440p 144hz IPS would be better for general usage, and yes the pixel responsiveness is slower on those, but when i was playing the lottery with them i never thought hey i could really improve my performance with a faster panel because it was fast enough. That''s all i can really say about that.
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