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Originally Posted by Smanci View Post

This is all subjective. 24" 1440p will be no problem for anyone with normal vision. Also keep in mind DSR doesn't properly show text and UI on lower res monitors.


Ah yes, normal vision.

I had a 14" RGB monitor with my new Commodore 64 in the early 1980's. Then to a 15",17" and 19" CRT's and now to a 22" and possibly up to a 27". Each time I convinced myself that I need the upgrade because of more screen real estate. I wonder if this whole bigger monitor size issue is just like the increase in gasoline prices. They keep increasing the size/price until your accustomed to it, and then your eyes are so jacked up that you can never go back unless you've got Coke bottle readers.

Just a thought
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Yeah, its backlight uniformity is distractingly horrible. When playing games or watching movies that have dark scenes, it's all I see.

I want to  use its Blue Light feature too, but that makes the bad backlight uniformity stand out for everything else because then the darker parts become brown.

I also hate that its OSD indicator for which signal type it's using is dead-center. It's the dumbest and most stupidest thing ever. It's right in the way when it comes up! heh I'd probably put up with it though if this monitor's backlight weren't so god-awful.

The AOC G2460PG and the ASUS PG248Q use the same panel and so they have the same problem, but at least they weren't dumb enough to put the OSD signal indicator DEAD-CENTER. heh I've been told that the ASUS PG248Q doesn't even have an OSD indicator for the signal.


Hopefully the S2417DG will have better Gamma correction than it's big brother. Maybe TheGoodVive can get some preliminary info out for us because I'm chomping at the bit to buy one.
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Originally Posted by Stretch56 View Post


Ah yes, normal vision.

I had a 14" RGB monitor with my new Commodore 64 in the early 1980's. Then to a 15",17" and 19" CRT's and now to a 22" and possibly up to a 27". Each time I convinced myself that I need the upgrade because of more screen real estate. I wonder if this whole bigger monitor size issue is just like the increase in gasoline prices. They keep increasing the size/price until your accustomed to it, and then your eyes are so jacked up that you can never go back unless you've got Coke bottle readers.

Just a thought

 

Every time this has come up on OCN, we always see owners of 27" monitors saying that they have absolutely no problem with their eyeballs being 2-3 feet away from the panel. 27" really isn't that big.

 

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Hopefully the S2417DG will have better Gamma correction than it's big brother. Maybe TheGoodVive can get some preliminary info out for us because I'm chomping at the bit to buy one.

 

Yeah, I hope its gamma is better too. However, I don't know if I want to pay $569.99 USD shipped for it when the S2716DG can be had for $519.99 USD shipped. Stupid market. lol

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Too late for me!


Impressions please!
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Every time this has come up on OCN, we always see owners of 27" monitors saying that they have absolutely no problem with their eyeballs being 2-3 feet away from the panel. 27" really isn't that big.


Yeah, I hope its gamma is better too. However, I don't know if I want to pay $569.99 USD shipped for it when the S2716DG can be had for $519.99 USD shipped. Stupid market. lol

Dell will have to drop the price for the very same reason you mentioned. They can't undercut it with the S2716DG very long unless they're planning to migrate to a 27" IPS 144hz gamer to compete with the others and phase out the 27" TN. My price would be the same $569.99 so I can afford to wait even though I want one now.
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I didn't have too much time for testing today, and a lot of it was needed to get it to run at more than 24 Hz. The 15' DP 1.2 cable (from UGREEN, "4K Resolution") I had bought for this did not work well. Even at 1920x1080 I could only select 24 Hz (or 23 Hz, depending on the dialog - Windows vs. NVIDIA). After enabling overclocking, I was able to select all resolutions, but any above 24 Hz (even 60 Hz) would crash the graphics card. Luckily it auto recovers after 30s or so, and using my TV as a second monitor I was able to play around with the settings.
With the included cable, however, it works well, even at 165 Hz! So if anyone has a 15' DP cable that works well with high resolutions and refresh rates, let me know, I need one.

So far I'm happy with the display! It looks great, the picture quality is good (definitely better than the 19" Samtron 94B I was using before), the size is great, text looks great because of the high PPI.

I tried Rainbox Six Siege for a bit and G-Sync appears to work as well. Getting around 100 fps at 1440p and Ultra settings (and using the HD texture pack), but it varies. Looked smooth for the most part anyway, except occasionally there's a complete 1s stutter. Not sure yet what that is about, I don't think that happened with my old monitor. Also, the intro videos stutter every 1s.
Played at 1080p for a bit, it's definitely playable, but noticeably blurry. Not ugly, but not great either. If you get a high end card in a month or so, you can put up with it until then, but I wouldn't be happy with it as a long-term solution.

I tried the testufo.com pixel inversion test and see a flash every second regardless of the other settings. That is not what I expected to see as a result of pixel inversion issues, sounds like something else.

As far as the coating is concerned, it is definitely matte, but I have no idea whether it's light or not. Maybe this picture helps (monitor off, just a reflection of my windows), if not, let me know what I should try:

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Thank you for testing 1080p gaming. That helped me with my decision-making process here.

 

I would get a DisplayPort cable from MonoPrice.com. They cost less and are probably about the highest quality you can get.

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post #68 of 1548
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I didn't have too much time for testing today, and a lot of it was needed to get it to run at more than 24 Hz. The 15' DP 1.2 cable (from UGREEN, "4K Resolution") I had bought for this did not work well. Even at 1920x1080 I could only select 24 Hz (or 23 Hz, depending on the dialog - Windows vs. NVIDIA). After enabling overclocking, I was able to select all resolutions, but any above 24 Hz (even 60 Hz) would crash the graphics card. Luckily it auto recovers after 30s or so, and using my TV as a second monitor I was able to play around with the settings.
With the included cable, however, it works well, even at 165 Hz! So if anyone has a 15' DP cable that works well with high resolutions and refresh rates, let me know, I need one.

So far I'm happy with the display! It looks great, the picture quality is good (definitely better than the 19" Samtron 94B I was using before), the size is great, text looks great because of the high PPI.

I tried Rainbox Six Siege for a bit and G-Sync appears to work as well. Getting around 100 fps at 1440p and Ultra settings (and using the HD texture pack), but it varies. Looked smooth for the most part anyway, except occasionally there's a complete 1s stutter. Not sure yet what that is about, I don't think that happened with my old monitor. Also, the intro videos stutter every 1s.
Played at 1080p for a bit, it's definitely playable, but noticeably blurry. Not ugly, but not great either. If you get a high end card in a month or so, you can put up with it until then, but I wouldn't be happy with it as a long-term solution.

I tried the testufo.com pixel inversion test and see a flash every second regardless of the other settings. That is not what I expected to see as a result of pixel inversion issues, sounds like something else.

As far as the coating is concerned, it is definitely matte, but I have no idea whether it's light or not. Maybe this picture helps (monitor off, just a reflection of my windows), if not, let me know what I should try:

Can you try taking a picture head on? You can kind of see the difference in matte coating based on how clear your reflection will be like these two pictures taken from PCMonitors:

medium matte coating: https://pcmonitors.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/PG248Q-front.jpg

light matte coating: https://pcmonitors.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/P2415Q-front-off.jpg

Notice how in the lighter matte coating the reflection becomes slightly more clear.
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Can you try taking a picture head on?

Will do! I'll put a bunch of other screens next to it, should be able to see a nice range then (one of them will be a glossy MacBook Pro)
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That looks like the light matte coating to me.

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