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post #21 of 57
I want to see the 4W Zen APU some competition in ULV is needed. Especially the 11W boost 4.5W intel parts have no competition at all. (300 euros for a ~100mm^2 chip gimme some competition plz)
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AMD says:
Site interprets it as:
I love how all of the AMD articles have a serious dark, assuming the worst, glass half empty, end of the world tone to them. Of course Zen is a starting point, it's a brand new architecture. The only people with heightened expectations are the people who overhype it themselves and then blame AMD for over hyping it.

Do people really expect a company like AMD and their god awful budget to just bounce back and beat both Nvidia and Intel handily? Not going to happen.
What hype? AMD has to talk about the product sometime you know? They are hardly, and I mean hardly talking about it considering how close it is.

Nothing makes my nipples hard like a dark and foreboding article about AMD.
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post #23 of 57
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I want to see the 4W Zen APU some competition in ULV is needed. Especially the 11W boost 4.5W intel parts have no competition at all. (300 euros for a ~100mm^2 chip gimme some competition plz)
This and servers is where they need to succeed to survive and going all out on efficiency is the right way to go imo.
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You've got to be careful with any article these days, favoritism is strong in most article writers. I take any of these with a grain of salt. We know one fact and it's that Zen is fast.
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You've got to be careful with any article these days, favoritism is strong in most article writers. I take any of these with a grain of salt. We know one fact and it's that Zen is fast.

Hard to say really, I heard Keller left because the Apple Turnovers weren't crispy enough. Onto greener pastures I suppose.
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Well, that reads like disappointment.. but.. My fingers are still crossed...

That's Tom's Hardware for ya.
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post #27 of 57
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Originally Posted by SoloCamo View Post

AMD says:
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I love how all of the AMD articles have a serious dark, assuming the worst, glass half empty, end of the world tone to them. Of course Zen is a starting point, it's a brand new architecture. The only people with heightened expectations are the people who overhype it themselves and then blame AMD for over hyping it.

Do people really expect a company like AMD and their god awful budget to just bounce back and beat both Nvidia and Intel handily? Not going to happen.
What hype? AMD has to talk about the product sometime you know? They are hardly, and I mean hardly talking about it considering how close it is.

LOL. I agree thumb.gif

I think the whole idea behind "Zen is a starting point" is that they now have a architecture that they can build upon and improve through various ways to get a lot of IPC gains and power reductions over the coming years.

Doesnt take long to catch on to Intel if Intel keep doing the lame 5% IPC gains and distrubuting more resources toward a IGP that I dont care about
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"Zen is a starting point" = zen is the end of amd as a company
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Hang on a sec, why does this say Michael Clark was lead architect for Zen when for years it has been touted that Jim Keller was lead architect on Zen and has even done interviews on it?
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Hang on a sec, why does this say Michael Clark was lead architect for Zen when for years it has been touted that Jim Keller was lead architect on Zen and has even done interviews on it?

I'd assume it's because Michael Clark is the lead architect now. Keller only ever sticks around to design things. Once the design is complete and it becomes optimisation, tuning, and production, he's on to the next one. 

     
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