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Hello,
I am very tempted to RMA my current CPU, mobo and cooler (FX 8320E, Gigabyte 970-UD3P, Arctic A32) to get used Intel parts at a much lower cost.

I was originally going for Xeon X5460, but ram seemed quite expensive.
I checked out i5-25(4)00, but was going for no less than 90€.

I was looking at i5-750 when I noticed Xeon 3440 at half the price.
Looking around it seems that they perform around the same, but Xeon has hyperthreading (can anyone confirm me this?).

I would pair the Xeon with a Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2 Rev 1.3 motherboard... 60€ for the motherboard, 30€ for the CPU (opposed to 88€ motherboard and 113€ CPU I have currently, can squeeze an used GPU and SSD in the price difference biggrin.gif)

I have a few questions, though:
  • Xeon X3440 is not in the motherboard's supported CPU list, however Xeon X3480, X3450 and L3426 all are. Do you think I will still be fine?
  • The motherboard specifications for RAM are: DDR3 1666 (O.C.)/1333/1066/800 MHz. In their memory support list, I see even some 2133MHz modules being supported. The Intel ARK page for the CPU itself shows a max of 1333 MHz frequency supported for that specific CPU. I have 2x4GB DDR3 1600 modules, will the RAM will be downclocked automatically?
  • I heard Xeon overclocks well... do you think I will be able to overclock somewhat (2-300 MHz would be plenty) on that motherboard, if I pair the CPU with a Scythe Katana 3?

Thanks in advance!
post #2 of 11
The Xeon does have HT.
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if this is for gaming get at least an LGA1155 platform
  
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Not for gaming only (and right now all I can afford is the likes of HD 7850, will maybe upgrade to RX 470 next year but that's it), but also for running Virtual Machines and server-side development.

I could go for an i5-2400 or i5-2500, I already have a socket 1155 motherboard (an HP OEM one, CUPERTINO2, which is why I hesitate a bit... do you think I can trust it, even though the i5 IS officialy supported?), but what advantage would I get over the Xeon?

I see here that an overclocked Xeon will behave the same as a stock i5-2500, but i5 lacks hyperthreading...
post #5 of 11
If you want gaming performance, the i5-760 would be the better choice, I am still running one locked at 3.6 GHz for gaming with emulators and what not.

But if you want to run VM's and stuff, then go with the lower clocked Xeon since it has Hyper threading and more threads for running VM's with. The Xeon's of 1156 are pretty much the same as the similarly clocked i7's just with added ECC memory support and lower running voltage if I'm remembering correctly.
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post #6 of 11
if you will run VMs you get some xeon x5650 x5660 x5670, and a lga 1366 server motherboard or a xeon e5 2650 and a x79 motherboard but depends whichever you prefer
Edited by PontiacGTX - 8/26/16 at 9:43am
  
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if you will run VMs you get some xeon x5650 x5660 x5670, and a lga 1366 server motherboard or a xeon e5 2670 and a x79 motherboard but depends whichever you prefer

Sadly LGA 1366/2011 motherboards are VERY(very!) expensive here, otherwise I would've gotten an i7-920 for sure ages ago biggrin.gif 1156/5 are much much more affordable.

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If you want gaming performance, the i5-760 would be the better choice, I am still running one locked at 3.6 GHz for gaming with emulators and what not.

Missed the I5-760, I see they are priced the same as i5-750, too...
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But if you want to run VM's and stuff, then go with the lower clocked Xeon since it has Hyper threading and more threads for running VM's with.

In the end, it seems going for Xeon 3440 or i5-2500 will cost me the same, with the tradeoff of HP motherboard for socket 1155 versus Gigabyte on 1156, and avoiding much hassle if I go for 1155 (as I keep the motherboard and can just sell off ny i3-2120, and spare a Windows 10 license)... however the Xeon CAN overclock and DOES have more threads...

Gah wha-smiley.png
Edited by Ferd - 8/26/16 at 10:06am
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on ebay they are around 60usd.
  
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post #9 of 11
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I live in Italy, they start at 90€, average at 140€ and DDR2 ram is much more expensive than DDR3...mad.gif
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Actually today I got my hands on an Asus P8H61 R2.0 motherboard for basically free... making a profit out of it actually, so my CPU budget has increased quite a bit biggrin.gif

Seems a pretty nice motherboard, I noticed it also supports Ivy Bridge CPU's... there are a few i5-3570 on ebay at around 120€, they seem to be quite a bit faster than i5-2500 or am I missing something?

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