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Meh, I'm not too impressed at all but this was about what I was expecting from Kaby Lake. Although if the 7700K can reach 5 GHz average OCs I'm not gonna lie, I may end up with one. I've been itching for a new build & had planned on building test bench, but maybe the better route would be to build a new main rig & use my current sig rig as the basis for the test bench. headscratch.gif
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The 200 chipset is what makes Kaby, not the CPU.

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They showed the 15w skus because this is best case scenario for Kaby lake. Basically they were able to increase the core clock by 10% and stay within the same TDP. But on the desktop side of thing, we are already at the limit. I really doubt that kaby lake will OC way past 5ghz to make up for the lack of IPC gains and net you the same 15%~ performance boost.
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Quote:
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The 200 chipset is what makes Kaby, not the CPU.

didn't see any mention of features or anything on the 200 boards.

got a link?
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Will have to see how this and Zen compete.

I'm done with having only 4 threads in my system... it's time to go to 8+.
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Intel has a little box with a bunch of IPC gains in the back storage with a note that says: "Here is some coffee to wake us up after AMD releases something worthwhile. Meanwhile, keep working on that almost asleep low power stuff."
 
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12% to 19% increase at same 15w TDP is impressive. It does not matter if those gains are result of IPC or clock speed

Desktop performance boost is going to be less however (probably just 10% faster) because the clock speed did not improve as much as 15w TPD part.
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wait, so a 3.5ghz kaby will be 12% faster then a 3.1ghz skylake in "productivity"

doing some math that means no IPC improvement

3.5/3.1 = 1.129
1.12 - 1.129 = -0.009, or -0.9% IPC improvement


moving up from the 2c4t i5 to the 2c4t i7, in "web speed advantage" (*** does that mean)

3.5/3.1 = 1.129
1.19 - 1.129 = 6.1% IPC improvement

so splitting the difference we get almost EXACTLY a 2.6% IPC improvement


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3.5/3.1 = +13%

Intel say 12-19% gain. Thats 5-10% IPC gain max when everything seems to come from higher clocks.

Intel have hit a architecture wall so hard their only chance is to have a manufacture process that can give them the extra (little) boost thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

your math is wrong on almost every level
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Actually 7700K been leaked last weekend with 4.2 stock and 4.5 ghz boost, clock speed bump is actually quite significant.
Look closer, 1.12 and 1.19 both refer to a Kabylake chip compared to their Skylake counterpart.

3.1 Skylake chip is 1, 3.5 Kaby lake chip is 1.19, so after you factor out the clock speed advantage 1.19 *(3.1/3/5)=1.054 -> There is a 5% IPC gain from Skylake to Kabylake In addition to the clock speed gain across the entire linup.

your math is close enough, but you ignore both graphs, and focus only on the one that is possitive. amusingly the 12% graph in "productivity" shows a -0.9% decrease in IPC. so I split the difference, one showed a 6.1% gain, the other showed a -0.9% gain = 5.2% / 2 = 2.6% average gain in IPC
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Actually 7700K been leaked last weekend with 4.2 stock and 4.5 ghz boost, clock speed bump is actually quite significant.
Look closer, 1.12 and 1.19 both refer to a Kabylake chip compared to their Skylake counterpart.

3.1 Skylake chip is 1, 3.5 Kaby lake chip is 1.19, so after you factor out the clock speed advantage 1.19 *(3.1/3/5)=1.054 -> There is a 5% IPC gain from Skylake to Kabylake In addition to the clock speed gain across the entire linup.


It just mean it has 0-5% IPC improvement depending on application.


Dont pin ur hope too far... as far as the 3 step cadence goes, optimization is supposed to be the least performance jump among the three.
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