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we should all boycott quadcores.
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post #52 of 106
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Originally Posted by pittguy578 View Post

Are we reaching almost to the point where there won't be any IPC improvements, at least to any major degree? I think only time we will see massive improvements is when they can get a 16 core up to 5 GHZ
No. Intel is just too cheap to bring hexa to mainstream desktop, and they spend the transistor budget on wide FP (with little benefit for the average user), efficiency and IGP.
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they spend the transistor budget on wide FP (with little benefit for the average user)

Intel's wide FP doesn't eat up many transistors because 256-bit AVX/AVX2 instructions borrow 128-bits from the integer SIMD path.
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post #54 of 106
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Originally Posted by Tojara View Post

No. Intel is just too cheap to bring hexa to mainstream desktop, and they spend the transistor budget on wide FP (with little benefit for the average user), efficiency and IGP.

Intel aren't cheap.
The amount they are putting on R&D each year is worth approximately what AMD are even worth overall.
They have centres all around the world doing research, testing manufacturing, etc etc. The amount of patents they are putting out each year is staggering to say the least.

All they need is a motivation and an actual reason to get their chips more cores (currently only planned to cannon lake).

Since their 4 core no HT CPUs are beating the hell out of AMDs current 8 core CPUs, and since AMD's desktop CPUs are only coming in H2 2017, intel has zero reason to rush to put out more cores.

While some people will benefit from it, at the current state, I wouldn't put out higher cores for the main stream as well. No reason at all to do it.
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Intel aren't cheap.
The amount they are putting on R&D each year is worth approximately what AMD are even worth overall.
They have centres all around the world doing research, testing manufacturing, etc etc. The amount of patents they are putting out each year is staggering to say the least.

All they need is a motivation and an actual reason to get their chips more cores (currently only planned to cannon lake).

Since their 4 core no HT CPUs are beating the hell out of AMDs current 8 core CPUs, and since AMD's desktop CPUs are only coming in H2 2017, intel has zero reason to rush to put out more cores.

While some people will benefit from it, at the current state, I wouldn't put out higher cores for the main stream as well. No reason at all to do it.

I agree, Intel may have zero reason, but users literally have reasons. redface.gif
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Intel seems to be sticking with their "5% improvement over last gen" process.

the clockspeed improvement is around 12.9% However their SYSmark test only provided 12% improvement versus the webXPRT bench that provided 19% improvement.

who knows more about SYSmark 2014 and webXPRT 2015? (were the 2016 versions sold out/ too expensive?)

Like always, this processor isn't going to speed up loading times of webpages by 19% no matter what intel tries to misconstrue trough performance benches.
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Will the upgraded graphics actually be that much better did anyone see the demo? Curious if kabylake pentium or celerons are worth holding out for, looking to buy a new laptop.
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http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/three-generations-intel-hd-graphics-tested/

Kabylake's higher clocks should alleviate the bottlenecks to the integrated graphics. HD 540 loses to the HD 530 in a few cases. Skull Canyon is probably bottlenecking its own igpu.
Edited by czin125 - 8/27/16 at 8:02am
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In terms of gaming these high end chips can do 4k 60 FPS

Yes but thats one of the easier scenarios for a CPU. As resolutuon increases the bottleneck shifts from the CPU to the GPU. Also, most modern CPUs can achieve 60 fps. Achieving 144 or 165 hz is much more difficult for a CPU and thats where we need faster ips. Doesnt matter if its ipc or clock speed increase, but instructions per second is whats important.
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