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Hard pad gets rough after a couple months use

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I've been testing a lot of different mice and mouse pads including soft and hard pads. I prefer hard pads over cloth pads any day of the week.

Anyway I use a normal sens, 400 DPI 2 sens and I bhop a lot so I am swiping my mouse over my mousepad fast very often which of course causes friction. The middle area of my mousepad where my mouse is spending most of its hours is getting very rough. So rough that I am getting extremely annoyed by it and it affects my aim substantially negative.

The sides of the mousepad where the mouse is not spending much time has very little friction and is still good quality. I want the whole mousepad to be like that.

I tried to wash the mousepad with soap and water as I though there were skin debris, oil and other **** that got stuck in the middle of the mousepad and caused this friction, but the wash didn't help much at all. Cloth pads on the other hand feels almost like new after they've been washed, but NOT hard pads.

So I'm thinking is it maybe the plastic material on the hard pad that has wore off? If so, how should I solve this problem? I mean buying a new hard pad every month is not viable...

I'm using Logitech G440 I think, I'm not sure. It cost around $40 I think.
post #2 of 39
That's normal with most hard pads, the surface just gets worn out after some usage. It's one of the reasons most people use cloth I guess.
post #3 of 39
The G440 has been known/reported to have durability issues, both on this forum and by others (such as here). My best suggestion is looking into different materials, such as aluminum pads. You could even try glass but such surfaces are difficult to find these days.

I'm not saying all "plastic" pads will wear like the G440, others undoubtedly have greater durability. This thread is a great starting point.
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Originally Posted by Maximillion View Post

The G440 has been known/reported to have durability issues, both on this forum and by others (such as here). My best suggestion is looking into different materials, such as aluminum pads. You could even try glass but such surfaces are difficult to find these days.

I'm not saying all "plastic" pads will wear like the G440, others undoubtedly have greater durability. This thread is a great starting point.

Thank you, I didn't know this when I bought G440, I will research better next time I buy a mousepad and that would be right now. I have sweaty hands so an aluminum pad would probably just make my hand stick to the pad, right? I don't know about glass, I would LOVE to hear pros / cons between hard pad, semi-hard pad, aluminum pad and glass pad since that's what I will probably buy.

That thread is from 2009 and it's very long so I don't know where to even begin. I would be happy if I could get some up to date tips in this thread.

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Originally Posted by badben25 View Post

That's normal with most hard pads, the surface just gets worn out after some usage. It's one of the reasons most people use cloth I guess.

My cloth pads also get very rough in one spot after a few months use. I think washing them helps but I'm not sure if the rough spot might be permanently damaged.
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Originally Posted by TitanicSank View Post

My cloth pads also get very rough in one spot after a few months use. I think washing them helps but I'm not sure if the rough spot might be permanently damaged.

Is it a roughness that you can wash off? If it is then the surface isn't really deteriorating, but with plastic pads losing surface texture is bound to happen. I was big into plastic pads myself when I played competitively but had to move on because they were expensive to buy in the first place as well as expensive to replace.

Have you tried using different mouse skates like Hyperglides? They might go a bit easy on your surface and wear themselves down first, dunno.
post #6 of 39
in summer, i have the "sweaty sticky" problem with any hard pad, including plastic. but whether i'm using plastic, aluminium or glass, i just occasionally wipe down the pad, as well as my hand/wrist/arm. so, not really a problem imo.

- the biggest cons with hard pads are probably availability and (shipping) prices.
- for tracking performance, it depends more on the finish than the "category". for example i have a (slightly worn) func surface 10, which is a smooth plastic pad, and some sensors track poorly on it.
- plenty of people don't like the sound, feel or glide/friction of most glass and aluminium pads, so keep those things in mind.
- with the exception of the 3366, all IR sensors i have track poorly on my aluminium pad (from Alugraphics). all my red LED sensors track fine on it however.
- with the right finish, glass and aluminium are virtually indestructible. the aluminium pad i have is anodized and it would take brute force to put a scratch on it. the same goes for (tempered) acid etched glass. a nice pro, since it secures the glide and tracking performance.
- glass pads are usually quite thick, which imo is a con.
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Originally Posted by badben25 View Post

Is it a roughness that you can wash off? If it is then the surface isn't really deteriorating, but with plastic pads losing surface texture is bound to happen. I was big into plastic pads myself when I played competitively but had to move on because they were expensive to buy in the first place as well as expensive to replace.

Have you tried using different mouse skates like Hyperglides? They might go a bit easy on your surface and wear themselves down first, dunno.

I can wash of roughness from cloth pad yes. However cloth pad has too much friction. I am now used to playing on a hard pad and I just went back to cloth pad due to the inconsistency in glide on my hard pad because it's **** and has the rough areas already which has FOR SURE more than double the friction than the "unused" space on the hard pad. It's extremely annoying and unplayable.

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Originally Posted by Bucake View Post

in summer, i have the "sweaty sticky" problem with any hard pad, including plastic. but whether i'm using plastic, aluminium or glass, i just occasionally wipe down the pad, as well as my hand/wrist/arm. so, not really a problem imo.

- the biggest cons with hard pads are probably availability and (shipping) prices.
- for tracking performance, it depends more on the finish than the "category". for example i have a (slightly worn) func surface 10, which is a smooth plastic pad, and some sensors track poorly on it.
- plenty of people don't like the sound, feel or glide/friction of most glass and aluminium pads, so keep those things in mind.
- with the exception of the 3366, all IR sensors i have track poorly on my aluminium pad (from Alugraphics). all my red LED sensors track fine on it however.
- with the right finish, glass and aluminium are virtually indestructible. the aluminium pad i have is anodized and it would take brute force to put a scratch on it. the same goes for (tempered) acid etched glass. a nice pro, since it secures the glide and tracking performance.
- glass pads are usually quite thick, which imo is a con.

I am a wrist player so I realize maybe sweaty hands won't really do anything, it would be worse if I was an arm player though.

I want a LOW and long lasting CONSISTENT friction mouse pad. This is by far absolutely the most important thing for me when it comes to mouse pad. Sure there will be friction and something has to wear down unless I wanna play with lube or oil on my mouse pad. But that something then have to be the gliding pads on the mouse, I would imagine they are pretty cheap to replace.

So:

Lowest friction possible
Last for at least 6 months without even the SLIGHTEST notable wear when it comes to increased friction

So what should I get? Aluminum pad?
post #8 of 39
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Originally Posted by TitanicSank View Post


I want a LOW and long lasting CONSISTENT friction mouse pad.

You'll be surprised how little your options are,

You might want to look here, a bunch of us tried to do the same: http://www.overclock.net/t/1560612/ratpadz-still-the-best

Miraculously, the user DragonPlay was able to wear out his sheet, mine is still good as new.
post #9 of 39
(my) aluminium pad is not low friction. my glass steelseries pad isn't either.

check out aayman's suggestion, or try: https://www.amazon.com/F-series-17-Rough-Mouse-Pad/dp/B000ES4Q08
i can't vouch (yet) for its durability (i haven't owned it for long), but i've read that it lasts a very long time, and it's very low friction.
Edited by Bucake - 8/30/16 at 5:19pm
post #10 of 39
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Originally Posted by TitanicSank View Post

I can wash of roughness from cloth pad yes. However cloth pad has too much friction. I am now used to playing on a hard pad and I just went back to cloth pad due to the inconsistency in glide on my hard pad because it's **** and has the rough areas already which has FOR SURE more than double the friction than the "unused" space on the hard pad. It's extremely annoying and unplayable.

Yep, sounds like the usual issues. Time to suck it up and buy a new pad I'm afraid. Some pads will last longer than others, but expect to buy new ones sooner or later when one gets annoying, because it WILL get annoying at some point.

Hey, atleast you get to try a different pad every time tongue.gif There's many good ones out there, usually older models.

As for metal/glass, make sure you can try them first or get them on a return policy as you might not like their glide attributes. Remember, pads will feel different after your glides wear and adjust to their surfaces.

You could consider some hybrid pads, but there's barely any options these days and hybrids have always cost more than usual.

EDIT: If you can, definitely try to get your hands on a Zowie TF/TFX series pad and give it a try. You might like it.
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