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post #11 of 39
Thread Starter 
So there is no hard pad on the market that stays consistent for month after month? I have read the threads you've linked me but it's so much information and so much speculations that I just get even more confused about which mouse pad I should buy after reading the threads...

badben25 says Zowie TF/TFX is good. What's good about it?

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post #12 of 39
It's like this: When it comes to hard mousepads, any pad with a plastic surface will show the behavior that you find annoying after varying amounts of usage.
Metal and glass will not have this issue but those will be even faster at wearing out mouse feet (if that matters). Also, you must try them or be able to return them because you might or might not like them.
Some hybrid surfaces usually cost more, are always harder to find, and will still wear out, though they'll take longer than plastic pads.

The TF or TFX pads can be deemed hybrid in a way; they are like cloth since they can be bent/rolled and come in large sizes and last quite a while easily, but have the speed and gliding that you will like and are not affected by humidity like cloth pads usually are. They might also feel a bit more consistent since they are not cushy because of the kind of base they use.

I know someone who does this instead: he buys several pieces of Razer Sphex or HyperX Skyn mousepads. Think of these as the surface part of plastic pads, and instead of the base there is an adhesive. They're very thin, can stick to your desk without issues, will last the same as a plastic pad, and should be cheaper as well. Use until one wears out, then peel it off and throw it and apply a new one. If you want, get one of these and try it out, maybe you will like it. I personally prefer the Sphex over both versions of the Skyn.

Phew, I think I wrote a guide there for you.
post #13 of 39
Glass is the only surface that seems to last forever. If you have a competent glass shop nearby you can get something like this made: http://www.overclock.net/t/1582536/icemat-v3-project-custom-glass-mousepad

Glass will chew through teflon faster but you can buy bulk sets of feet and replace them as needed. It's cheaper than buying a new $40 pad every six months. Glass isn't the most user friendly surface though, it requires constant cleaning.
post #14 of 39
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Originally Posted by badben25 View Post

That's normal with most hard pads, the surface just gets worn out after some usage. It's one of the reasons most people use cloth I guess.

This. I used hard pads for years, when i switched to cloth i cursed myself for not doing it sooner. I don't get people using hard pads for gaming. You're killing your mouse feet and the pad at the same time, and complaining about wear issues afterwards. Makes no sense to me.
post #15 of 39
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by badben25 View Post

It's like this: When it comes to hard mousepads, any pad with a plastic surface will show the behavior that you find annoying after varying amounts of usage.
Metal and glass will not have this issue but those will be even faster at wearing out mouse feet (if that matters). Also, you must try them or be able to return them because you might or might not like them.
Some hybrid surfaces usually cost more, are always harder to find, and will still wear out, though they'll take longer than plastic pads.

The TF or TFX pads can be deemed hybrid in a way; they are like cloth since they can be bent/rolled and come in large sizes and last quite a while easily, but have the speed and gliding that you will like and are not affected by humidity like cloth pads usually are. They might also feel a bit more consistent since they are not cushy because of the kind of base they use.

I know someone who does this instead: he buys several pieces of Razer Sphex or HyperX Skyn mousepads. Think of these as the surface part of plastic pads, and instead of the base there is an adhesive. They're very thin, can stick to your desk without issues, will last the same as a plastic pad, and should be cheaper as well. Use until one wears out, then peel it off and throw it and apply a new one. If you want, get one of these and try it out, maybe you will like it. I personally prefer the Sphex over both versions of the Skyn.

Phew, I think I wrote a guide there for you.

Of course I rather change the pads on the mouse rather than the whole mousepad. Looked at Razper Sphex on Youtube and it looks like it has nice glide. It cost 20€ + shipping here, but if I buy hyperglides for my mouse and a Razer Sphex pad, do you think it will make me happy? Will the hyperglides wear out before the plastic on the hard pad does? If I have to change hyperglides once a month then it's ok. I can live with that.

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Originally Posted by Derp View Post

Glass is the only surface that seems to last forever. If you have a competent glass shop nearby you can get something like this made: http://www.overclock.net/t/1582536/icemat-v3-project-custom-glass-mousepad

Glass will chew through teflon faster but you can buy bulk sets of feet and replace them as needed. It's cheaper than buying a new $40 pad every six months. Glass isn't the most user friendly surface though, it requires constant cleaning.

Glass has worse glide than hard pads, right. So I think I don't want glass.

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Originally Posted by Shogoki View Post

This. I used hard pads for years, when i switched to cloth i cursed myself for not doing it sooner. I don't get people using hard pads for gaming. You're killing your mouse feet and the pad at the same time, and complaining about wear issues afterwards. Makes no sense to me.

Dude I feel how my wrist is "overloaded" after a gaming session on a cloth pad because I'm used to playing on hard pads with perfect glide. I get tired in my wrist from cloth pads now and I just hate them so much, it's way too much friction. I have QCK heavy and Razer goliathus speed. Razer has less friction but it has at least double the friction when compared to a hard pad.

I can't unfeel what I have felt, right.
post #16 of 39
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Originally Posted by Shogoki View Post

This. I used hard pads for years, when i switched to cloth i cursed myself for not doing it sooner. I don't get people using hard pads for gaming. You're killing your mouse feet and the pad at the same time, and complaining about wear issues afterwards. Makes no sense to me.

I used cloth pad for years and switch to hard pads last year. I cursed myself for not doing it sooner tongue.gif

The feet issue is easy to deal with: https://www.amazon.com/CS-Hyde-PTFE-Mouse-Color/dp/B003DZ16X4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472581424&sr=8-1&keywords=mouse+tape

I use that over the mouse feet and after the initial break-in, it feels like regular mouse feet.

@TitanicSink: if you don't want to try plastic sheets then I don't think there is any hard pad that will last for months on end. Ratpadz is the only one that's readily available, if the small size suits you then you can give it a shot. The company has a satisfaction guarantee too, if you don't like it then you can return it within a year.

Hybrid pads are not worth the money IMO, it's not the same as hard pads. The TFX felt great during the first two weeks I had it, and then the glide started to change all over. It was also difficult to keep flat as well, some users here had to iron it to keep it flat.
post #17 of 39
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Originally Posted by aayman_farzand View Post

I used cloth pad for years and switch to hard pads last year. I cursed myself for not doing it sooner tongue.gif

The feet issue is easy to deal with: https://www.amazon.com/CS-Hyde-PTFE-Mouse-Color/dp/B003DZ16X4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1472581424&sr=8-1&keywords=mouse+tape

I use that over the mouse feet and after the initial break-in, it feels like regular mouse feet.

@TitanicSink: if you don't want to try plastic sheets then I don't think there is any hard pad that will last for months on end. Ratpadz is the only one that's readily available, if the small size suits you then you can give it a shot. The company has a satisfaction guarantee too, if you don't like it then you can return it within a year.

Hybrid pads are not worth the money IMO, it's not the same as hard pads. The TFX felt great during the first two weeks I had it, and then the glide started to change all over. It was also difficult to keep flat as well, some users here had to iron it to keep it flat.

Is the glide on that tape worse than hyperglides? Is Razper Sphex considereda plastic sheet? I never said I don't want to try it. If it has good glide and durability then sure I can try it. If I buy that one and some hyperglides AND your tape then I am good to go, yea?

If so I will test the difference between hyperglides and your tape. smile.gif That tape looks very small in width though, doesn't this mean I need to make two tape stripes next to each other and that will mean I will have a joint where the two tape stripes meet and that must really suck.
post #18 of 39
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Originally Posted by TitanicSank View Post

Is the glide on that tape worse than hyperglides? Is Razper Sphex considereda plastic sheet? I never said I don't want to try it. If it has good glide and durability then sure I can try it. If I buy that one and some hyperglides AND your tape then I am good to go, yea?

If so I will test the difference between hyperglides and your tape. smile.gif That tape looks very small in width though, doesn't this mean I need to make two tape stripes next to each other and that will mean I will have a joint where the two tape stripes meet and that must really suck.

Can't compare it to hyperglides because I never tried it myself. You won't need the glides if you get the tape because you can simply apply it over the stock feet and change it every one/two months.

The width can be insufficient depending on the mouse. I have this as well: http://www.mousetape.com. I use that for mice with larger feet like the G900. They both feel the same.
post #19 of 39
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Originally Posted by TitanicSank View Post

...but if I buy hyperglides for my mouse and a Razer Sphex pad, do you think it will make me happy?.

Brother, only you can decide on what makes you happy.

I see an expensive short time either way. You will either be buying surfaces and mouse skates to try and find the most suitable set, or you will decide to stay with hard pads and continue with replacing them. From what I can tell you're in Europe, and that'll make things worse.

IMO the most cost-effective path you can take is try to get textured/rough cloth-style pads, like Goliathus Control or Zowie TF/TFX or something else, and get fast skates with that. Apart from Hyperglides, try experimenting with Puretrak HD or Hotline Games Competition version. Basically move to a cloth-style pad and try and get a combo that maximizes glide.

Personally, if I had a stable income I would go back to hard pads right away but, c'est la vie.
post #20 of 39
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Originally Posted by Bucake View Post

check out aayman's suggestion, or try: https://www.amazon.com/F-series-17-Rough-Mouse-Pad/dp/B000ES4Q08
i can't vouch (yet) for its durability (i haven't owned it for long), but i've read that it lasts a very long time, and it's very low friction.

i'll just go ahead and quote myself here.
check out reviews of this pad. it's pretty cheap for how big it is, relative to other hard pads.

as for feet, i bought some teflon sheets, they are extremely cheap.
i add double-sided tape (also cheap) and then punch 5mm circles with a (leather) puncher (also cheap). easy, fast, cheap. great.
Edited by Bucake - 8/30/16 at 5:20pm
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