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Since I have an Arctic Cooling Hybrid Cooler AIO watercooling system from my old card, I plan to use that in the 1070 that I will be buying. I'm torn between the AMP! Edition and the AMP! Extreme of the Zotac GTX 1070.

I know the AMP! Extreme is pre-overclocked and have a better cooling system but since I'll be removing the fans anyway, should I just go with the AMP! Edition and save a few bucks? Or is the AMP! Extreme generally binned better than the AMP! Edition and will "surely" overclock better? Is there a chance, if I go with the AMP! Edition, that I can overclock it further than the AMP! Extreme?

What are your thoughts? Thanks.
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They both use the same PCB...with two 8-pin connectors, 8+3 phase design and a separate VRM heatsink. The regular AMP edition also comes pre-overclocked (albiet lower that the Extreme). Mine boost up to around 1980 MHz out of the box.

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Ok so is there even a remote chance that if I go with the AMP! Edition, I can overclock it further than the AMP! Extreme?
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post #4 of 15
Honestly it all comes down to the silicon lottery. You can have two identical AMP! Extremes overclocking differently from each other.

If it's not much more expensive, just get the Extreme for your peace of mind. At least it comes guaranteed with a slightly higher core clock out of the box (and one of the few 1070 with factory overclocked memory). But really, you can't go wrong with either.
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It might overclock higher, but it all depends on the silicon lottery as mentioned above. Either model seems fine to me, but if you'll utilize the old AiO from your previous card you might as well go with the cheaper model imo. Granted I haven't checked the clock speed differences between the two, but I imagine it is something like EVGA SC/SSC/FTW models where the cost difference isn't worth it at times (only for things like better parts, and a bios switch).
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IMO that Arctic cooler isn't even necessary with the Amp Extreme. It's typically around 65C with its super conservative stock fan profile that hovers around 1000RPM.

I personally think it's the best 1070 available in North America.

That AIO will drop your temps sure but you'll gain nothing for it. If you really want to go that route I'd buy the EVGA ACX that has a baseplate for the VRM and Memory + it's considerably cheaper.
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just ordered on myself cant wait for it to arrive lol 1070 amp extreme
had a zotac 980 amp extreme and it was a good card but bad reviews because of voltage lock
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IMO that Arctic cooler isn't even necessary with the Amp Extreme. It's typically around 65C with its super conservative stock fan profile that hovers around 1000RPM.

I personally think it's the best 1070 available in North America.

That AIO will drop your temps sure but you'll gain nothing for it. If you really want to go that route I'd buy the EVGA ACX that has a baseplate for the VRM and Memory + it's considerably cheaper.

Since I live in a tropical country (33C ambient temps), then an AIO will really do me good. This is considering the temperature throttle points of these cards as well.

Is the EVGA ACX the only one that has a baseplate for the VRM and Memory? Does it efficiently act as a heatsink for those modules? Its price is the same as the regular AMP.

EDIT:

I also noticed that based here, there are actually 4 protruding small metals in the square area around the GPU core. Wouldn't those interfere with the AIO pump? I remember reading somewhere that those present problems.
Edited by kevindd992002 - 8/28/16 at 6:43pm
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Yeah on that model people use copper shims. If you want one with absolute clearance the MSI Gaming has a separate memory and VRM heatsink/base plate that completely clears an AIO. I used a G10 prior on the MSI.

The problem is that you are now back in Zotac price territory so maybe the best solution for you is to find the card with the best VRM heatsink/plate (MSI IMO) and use your own Vram heatsinks. Everything else like the Asus and Gigabyte models incorporate VRM and Memory cooling on the heatsinks themselves so you'd be left having to put your own heatsink on both the VRM and Memory.
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Yeah on that model people use copper shims. If you want one with absolute clearance the MSI Gaming has a separate memory and VRM heatsink/base plate that completely clears an AIO. I used a G10 prior on the MSI.

The problem is that you are now back in Zotac price territory so maybe the best solution for you is to find the card with the best VRM heatsink/plate (MSI IMO) and use your own Vram heatsinks. Everything else like the Asus and Gigabyte models incorporate VRM and Memory cooling on the heatsinks themselves so you'd be left having to put your own heatsink on both the VRM and Memory.

Makes sense. So the MSI adds up on my list of choices then. Any known problems with the MSI? My dilemma now is which would produce better temps, the baseplate in the MSI for the VRAM and VRM or the VRM in the Zotac coupled with my own aluminum heatsinks for the remaining VRAMs?
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