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[AT]Intel’s 140GB Optane 3D XPoint PCIe SSD Spotted at IDF

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Aside from the talk, there were actually some Optane drives on the show floor, or at least what we were told were Optane. These were PCIe x4 cards with a backplate and a large heatsink, and despite my many requests neither demonstrator would actually take the card out to show what the heatsink looked like. Quite apart from which, neither drive was actually being used - one demonstration was showing a pre-recorded video of a rendering result using Optane, and the other was running a slideshow with results of Optane on RocksDB.

I was told in both cases that these were 140 GB drives, and even though nothing was running I was able to feel the heatsinks – they were fairly warm to the touch, at least 40C if I were to narrow down a number. One of the demonstrators was able to confirm that Intel has now moved from an FPGA-based controller down to their own ASIC, however it was still in the development phase.

One demo system was showing results from a previous presentation given earlier in the lifespan of Optane: rendering billions of water particles in a scene where most of the scene data was being shuffled from storage to memory and vice versa. In this case, compared to Intel’s enterprise PCIe SSDs, the rendering reduced down from 22hr to ~9hr.[/url]
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I just want to see them low depth queue random performance..

Nothing else matters
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It's kind of pointless to spend big money for fast SSDs. You can't tell the difference.
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I just want to see them low depth queue random performance..

Nothing else matters

They are not making this for consumer usage.
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It's kind of pointless to spend big money for fast SSDs. You can't tell the difference.

As a consumer you are right, enterprise is a totally different scenario.

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They are not making this for consumer usage.

Pretty much yet so meany people will want it to be like $50 when it comes out for 140Gb. The chips have been produced at IMFT for several years. They are going to be expensive to pay for all that R&D.
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They are not making this for consumer usage.

Pretty much yet so meany people will want it to be like $50 when it comes out for 140Gb. The chips have been produced at IMFT for several years. They are going to be expensive to pay for all that R&D.

Look how long it's taken for SSD's to become affordable consumer drives. Current enterprise drives (Toshiba's 100TB and this one for example) will take at least a decade to become affordable, if not longer. I am being generous as I think it will take a decade or two.

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They are not making this for consumer usage.

They aren't but they're still going to sell them to us.

I hope that when the consumer drives come out they are purpose-made to maximize typically used software.
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It's kind of pointless to spend big money for fast SSDs. You can't tell the difference.

Yes, but when the SSD is THIS fast, it almost stops being a storage device and more like memory.
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For IDF, Optane was ultimately relegated to a side presentation at the same time as other important talks were going on, and we were treated to discussions about ‘software defined cache hierarchy’ whereby a system with an Optane drive can define the memory space as ‘DRAM + Optane’. This means a system with 256GB of DRAM and a 768GB Optane drive can essentially act like a system with ‘1TB’ of DRAM space to fill with a database.
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I just want to see them low depth queue random performance..

Nothing else matters


Here you go, a demo from last year's IDF:




The real question is if the production version will be as good - or better.

I agree though that random QD1 is the most important metric though for consumer use.
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